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Title: Ancient Engine #348 - 1912 Turner 10 HP Light Car Engine
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 24, 2012, 03:57:10 AM
For one point: Identify this prewar engine.

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Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 31, 2012, 12:20:26 PM
Up
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Craig Gillingham on October 31, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
Is it French?
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 31, 2012, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on October 31, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
Is it French?

No sir
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Craig Gillingham on November 01, 2012, 05:19:44 AM
Belgian?
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 05:27:04 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on November 01, 2012, 05:19:44 AM
Belgian?

No sir
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Craig Gillingham on November 01, 2012, 05:33:25 AM
I thought I was onto something.

Is it European?
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 09:25:17 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Craig Gillingham on November 01, 2012, 11:06:44 PM
How about Italian?
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on November 01, 2012, 11:06:44 PM
How about Italian?

No
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 09, 2012, 03:39:58 AM
Chuffing to the Pros
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Allan L on November 09, 2012, 04:07:31 AM
I can't immediately recognise it, so I assume it isn't British.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 09, 2012, 04:13:47 AM
Assumptions can steer you astray
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 26, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
In other words, it's from the UK
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Allan L on November 26, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 26, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
In other words, it's from the UK
Thanks, I had understood that 8)
Still doesn't make me recognise an engine that must have been carried in a tubular sub-frame (or chassis) and looks as if it has chain-drives for camshaft and mag.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2012, 03:56:49 AM
I can't find a clear photo of the engine installed in the car. You are correct about the chain-drive.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: ImpishGrin on December 12, 2012, 07:05:20 AM
Is it prewar as in pre-WWII or pre-WWI? :)
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 12, 2012, 08:07:41 AM
Indeed it is
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: ImpishGrin on December 12, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
So - it's British, pre-1914, with chain-driven cam and I think an inline 4. is that correct?
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 12, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
Right
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 29, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 11, 2013, 04:06:26 AM
BH
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Tom_I on January 12, 2013, 12:10:27 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on December 29, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.

I have been reading some old book articles about steam-powered cars, and one happened to mention that the Managing Director of the Turner Manufacturing Company, which made Turner-Miesse steamers in the UK, was a gentleman by the name of J. Burns Dumbell, who sounds like the guy we're looking for. ;D

Turner produced petrol-engined cars in the years leading up to WW1, and the puzzle motor is their 10hp four cylinder unit introduced in 1912 according to most sources, though one I have seen puts it as early as 1909.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
Another impressive use of the clues provided.

Two points for you.
Title: Re: Ancient Engine #348 - 1912 Turner 10 HP Light Car Engine
Post by: Tom_I on January 13, 2013, 05:17:18 AM
Thank you. I hadn't heard of Mr Dumbell before. He's not mentioned in any of the books I have, but he cropped up in an article in the old publication Light Steam Power. Despite the slightly unfortunate name, he's described as a very astute business man.