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Ancient Engine #348 - 1912 Turner 10 HP Light Car Engine

Started by Otto Puzzell, October 24, 2012, 03:57:10 AM

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Otto Puzzell

For one point: Identify this prewar engine.

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You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Craig Gillingham


Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Craig Gillingham


Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Craig Gillingham

I thought I was onto something.

Is it European?

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Craig Gillingham


Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Allan L

I can't immediately recognise it, so I assume it isn't British.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Otto Puzzell

Assumptions can steer you astray
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Otto Puzzell

In other words, it's from the UK
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Allan L

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 26, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
In other words, it's from the UK
Thanks, I had understood that 8)
Still doesn't make me recognise an engine that must have been carried in a tubular sub-frame (or chassis) and looks as if it has chain-drives for camshaft and mag.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Otto Puzzell

I can't find a clear photo of the engine installed in the car. You are correct about the chain-drive.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

ImpishGrin

Is it prewar as in pre-WWII or pre-WWI? :)
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

ImpishGrin

So - it's British, pre-1914, with chain-driven cam and I think an inline 4. is that correct?
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Otto Puzzell

The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Otto Puzzell

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Tom_I

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on December 29, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.

I have been reading some old book articles about steam-powered cars, and one happened to mention that the Managing Director of the Turner Manufacturing Company, which made Turner-Miesse steamers in the UK, was a gentleman by the name of J. Burns Dumbell, who sounds like the guy we're looking for. ;D

Turner produced petrol-engined cars in the years leading up to WW1, and the puzzle motor is their 10hp four cylinder unit introduced in 1912 according to most sources, though one I have seen puts it as early as 1909.

Otto Puzzell

Another impressive use of the clues provided.

Two points for you.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Tom_I

Thank you. I hadn't heard of Mr Dumbell before. He's not mentioned in any of the books I have, but he cropped up in an article in the old publication Light Steam Power. Despite the slightly unfortunate name, he's described as a very astute business man.