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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: grobmotorix on October 21, 2010, 12:49:55 PM

Title: Bieber Monaco GT, 1975 prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 21, 2010, 12:49:55 PM
I´ll start on the pro level with this.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 21, 2010, 01:18:23 PM
The days of darkness are gone, the server problem seems to have been solved perfectly  :applause:
Thank you all, Guys! Great job!
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: ImpishGrin on October 25, 2010, 04:25:35 AM
British?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 05:29:35 AM
Not British.

Here is the only other photo I have:
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Allemano on October 25, 2010, 05:43:04 AM
based on a rear engined VW?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 06:52:57 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Allemano on October 25, 2010, 06:54:48 AM
That was quite obvious. I have not the slightest clue what it is, though!
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
That´s why I´ve placed this at the pro´s level from the beginning. ;D
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 25, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
A Tony Lapine sketch?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 12:49:48 PM
I bet the people or the man who drew this design would be very proud if he´d know what you´ve said. :D

I´m quite sure it was an in-house design without much professional help from the outside.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 25, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Bruce Meyers?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 04:05:48 PM
Not him, but you´re on to something...
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 25, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
Mike Costin?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
Not Costin.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 25, 2010, 05:03:14 PM
American?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 05:06:04 PM
Not american and not british.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 25, 2010, 05:13:34 PM
Does it come from a land down under?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
Nope - much easier.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: guido66 on October 25, 2010, 06:10:05 PM
German?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 25, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
German, yes.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: guido66 on October 25, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
HAZ?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 26, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
No, this is no HAZ design.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: guido66 on October 26, 2010, 04:51:13 PM
Heinz Roehnert?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 26, 2010, 04:54:54 PM
He did the Maplex and the Dingo?

No, not him and not one of the mentioned makes.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: guido66 on October 26, 2010, 05:09:03 PM
So, it's not a Bieber either?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 26, 2010, 05:14:28 PM
Very good!

It is a Bieber design, indeed - but what´s it called?

Locked 24h for guido66!
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: guido66 on October 26, 2010, 06:34:07 PM
I'll be offline from now until sunday. So one last wild guess before you can unlock it  ;)

Bieber flügelturer?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on October 26, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
No, it´s got a different name.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
We know the manufacturer. But what was the name of this stillborn project?
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Post by: Allemano on November 10, 2010, 08:28:43 AM
Is it mentioned somewhere except in books?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2010, 08:29:59 AM
I´ve scanned it from a Bieber brochure and do not know any other sources that are showing any pics or facts... ;D
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Allemano on November 10, 2010, 08:31:43 AM
Na großartig!
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
Well give me some minutes and I will scan the text sheet for all. This may help.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2010, 08:43:32 AM
Here´s the text, but it will not help with the name...

Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on December 08, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
Black hole sun, won´t you come...
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on December 16, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
voyage to nirvana  ;D
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on February 22, 2011, 02:23:40 PM
Shouldn´t some of those hard nuts be just solved by the puzzle editor after some time?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
To help with one of my oldest puzzles:

its name is a direct link to a famous place of motorsports.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 03:21:32 PM
Nürburgring?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 03:34:35 PM
Not german.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
Le Mans?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 03:39:52 PM
Not really french.
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 03:40:19 PM
Indianapolis?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: woodinsight on March 15, 2013, 03:42:09 PM
(Spa) Francorchamps?
Title: Re: grob: prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 03:43:27 PM
Spa and the Nürburgring are closest race tracks so far.

France was the closest country so far.
Title: Re: grob: Bieber prototype
Post by: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Monza?
Title: Re: grob: Bieber prototype
Post by: woodinsight on March 15, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Zandvoort?
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Post by: DeAutogids on March 15, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
Quote from: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Zolder?
should be further away from Germany then Spa as it is from France, surely?

I'd say Le Mans.
Title: Re: grob: Bieber prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 03:54:47 PM
France and Italy are closest so far.

None of the tracks we´ve had so far is correct.

But now it is quite easy to solve the first part of the name... ;D
Title: Re: grob : Bieber prototype
Post by: woodinsight on March 15, 2013, 04:04:03 PM
Not really a circuit but used for Grand Prix and historic events once a year - Monaco?
Title: Re: grob : Bieber prototype
Post by: Wendax on March 15, 2013, 04:06:27 PM
Or Montecarlo?
Title: Re: grob : Bieber prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
QuoteMonaco?

Correct!

Locked for you!

The second part of its name is just a common car type abbreviation.
Title: Re: grob : Bieber prototype
Post by: woodinsight on March 15, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
QuoteMonaco?

Correct!

Locked for you!

The second part of its name is just a common car type abbreviation.
Bieber Monaco Coupé prototype?
Title: Re: LOCKED for woodinsight / grob : Bieber Monaco ??? prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 15, 2013, 07:13:10 PM
Quoteabbreviation
Title: Re: LOCKED for woodinsight / grob : Bieber Monaco ??? prototype
Post by: woodinsight on March 16, 2013, 03:00:24 AM
My mistake - GT perhaps?
Title: Re: LOCKED for woodinsight / grob : Bieber Monaco ??? prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on March 16, 2013, 03:46:01 AM
You did hit quickly and hard - and achieved a goal.

Your point!

Now that it has a name nad can be found though search engines,
we hopefully might find an answer, if this has ever been
a finished car or it has eternally stayed in project state.
Title: Re: Bieber Monaco GT, 1975 prototype
Post by: gte4289 on September 14, 2019, 08:33:00 PM
Not much new to add; just stumbled across this image and felt it belonged here.
Title: Re: Bieber Monaco GT, 1975 prototype
Post by: grobmotorix on September 15, 2019, 01:40:24 AM
That's the brochure I also got :)
Seems like those were the only ever published photos of a project that never made it into production...