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Title: CG #89 - Peugeot Type 174 Million-Guiet cabriolet blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 04, 2013, 02:06:51 AM
For a point, what is the car make, model, and what company designed the body?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: als15 on December 06, 2013, 02:37:34 PM
Fiat 525?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 06, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
No, not Fiat.
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
Up a level.
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: nicanary on December 10, 2013, 04:09:00 PM
American?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 04:13:26 PM
Not American.
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: thorax on December 10, 2013, 05:00:52 PM
French?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:03:29 PM
QuoteFrench?
Yes!
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Citroen C6? Perhaps by Kellner?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 06:14:18 PM
QuoteCitroen C6? Perhaps by Kellner?
No, but a good guess.
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 06:18:10 PM
The steering wheels looks like a Bugatti...but not so the wheels and radiator. Is it an Hotchkiss?
Title: Re: CG # 89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 06:24:44 PM
Not a Hotchkiss.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 02:41:16 AM
Peugeot.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 02:43:59 AM
Yes, it's a Peugeot. LOCKED for you to tell me the model and the coach builder. I'll give you a couple of attempts.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 03:57:49 AM
Well, I think it could be a 183 D by Gaston Grummer.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 05:18:43 AM
QuoteWell, I think it could be a 183 D by Gaston Grummer.
No, not a Type 183. I'll think you'll get the model. Not Grummer, but just as well known.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 05:23:33 AM
It seems to be quite big, I guess 184 and Letourneur & Marchand.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 05:44:29 AM
QuoteIt seems to be quite big, I guess 184 and Letourneur & Marchand.
No, not a type 184. Close, but think earlier. Not a Letourneur & Marchand. There are a few cabriolets with similar coachwork on the internet, but none quite the same as on this Peugeot.

LOCKED for one more try.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 05:46:50 PM
I have not many ideas...you said that 184 is a close answer, and to look earlier: but I found no Peugeot model earlier than 1928-9, close to 184, and with matching measures. The only earlier Peugeot that kept a non aerodonamic look for some years longer, and big dimension, is the 601.  I haven't found a better replay, so I try with 601 by Belvalette.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
QuoteI have not many ideas...you said that 184 is a close answer, and to look earlier: but I found no Peugeot model earlier than 1928-9, close to 184, and with matching measures. The only earlier Peugeot that kept a non aerodonamic look for some years longer, and big dimension, is the 601.  I haven't found a better replay, so I try with 601 by Belvalette.
No, sorry not a Type 601 with a Belvalette body. It's earlier than 1928.

UNLOCKED.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: João on December 11, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
174 by Felber?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 07:59:22 PM
Quote174 by Felber?
It's a Type 174, but not by Felber.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: ropat53 on December 11, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
Peugeot 174 by Labourdette.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: 4popoid on December 11, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
Proposal for a Peugeot 174 by Tizot & Viguier of Marseille.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 12, 2013, 12:45:54 AM
QuotePeugeot 174 by Labourdette.
QuoteProposal for a Peugeot 174 by Tizot & Viguier of Marseille.
Peugeot Type 174, but not by either of those coachbuilders.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: targhediferro on December 12, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
I've just finished writing on the blackboard "earlier not younger" a hundred times!
Is it a 174 by Kelsch?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: João on December 12, 2013, 01:15:52 AM
A Paris based coachbuilder like Gallé?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 12, 2013, 01:26:32 AM
QuoteI've just finished writing on the blackboard "earlier not younger" a hundred times!
Is it a 174 by Kelsch?
I think you're being a bit hard on yourself.
But not Kelsch.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 12, 2013, 01:32:38 AM
QuoteA Paris based coachbuilder like Gallé?
Interesting question, I had to look up what the coachbuilders address was at the time. They were in Paris, but not Gallé.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: João on December 12, 2013, 01:45:31 AM
Double name like Lavocat & Marsaud?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 12, 2013, 02:07:18 AM
QuoteDouble name like Lavocat & Marsaud?
Yes, It's a double name, but not Lavocat & Marsaud. I think this puzzle will be solved soon.
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: João on December 12, 2013, 02:09:01 AM
Million-Guiet?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: 4popoid on December 12, 2013, 02:17:52 AM
Hibbard & Darrin?
Title: Re: CG #89 Blueprint
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 12, 2013, 02:23:32 AM
QuoteMillion-Guiet?

That's it!

It's a blueprint for a Peugeot Type 174 Million-Guiet cabriolet. I don't know if they actually built one, however, it's a point for you.

Sorry 4popoid.

Title: Re: CG #89 - Peugeot Type 174 Million-Guiet cabriolet blueprint
Post by: João on December 12, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
Thanks!