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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: Craig Gillingham on December 04, 2013, 02:13:58 AM

Title: CG #91 - Farman A6A? with Labourdette skiff coach work
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 04, 2013, 02:13:58 AM
For a point, what is the make, model and who is the coach builder of this car?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: exekiel on December 05, 2013, 12:48:21 PM
Spanish? :o
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 05, 2013, 01:05:43 PM
No, sorry, not Spanish.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Jean-Marie H on December 05, 2013, 03:41:34 PM
Mercedes Skiff by Labourdette
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 05, 2013, 04:27:49 PM
It's a Labourdette body, but not a Mercedes. LOCKED for Jean-Marie H for 2 attempts to find the make and model.
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Post by: Jean-Marie H on December 06, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Panhard Levassor
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 06, 2013, 08:23:04 PM
No, sorry.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 09, 2013, 03:56:58 PM
Unlocked.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
Up a level.
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Post by: nicanary on December 10, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
It appears to be LHD - is it German?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Not German.
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Post by: thorax on December 10, 2013, 04:58:22 PM
Labourdette Rochet-Schneider 20/30 CV Skiff
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
Sorry, not a Rochet.
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Post by: thorax on December 10, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Hispano Suiza?
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
Not a Hispano.
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Post by: nicanary on December 10, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
The "French" clue helped - I was baffled by the artillery wheels. It's a Voisin C1, bodied of course by Labourdette.

(Blimey, that was a bit of luck. The "French" clue I referred to actually related to a different one of your puzzles. I got lucky, but the car is pictured on a certain site which concerns itself with Voisin cars.)
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
QuoteThe "French" clue helped - I was baffled by the artillery wheels. It's a Voisin C1, bodied of course by Labourdette.

(Blimey, that was a bit of luck. The "French" clue I referred to actually related to a different one of your puzzles. I got lucky, but the car is pictured on a certain site which concerns itself with Voisin cars.)

I hate to say this, but it isn't a Voisin. I'll have to have a look at this car on "that site".
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Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
If Nicanary wouldn't be right, this could be a Renault double Decker Skiff Torpedo by Labourdette, 1924
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
Nope, not a Renault.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: nicanary on December 10, 2013, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
QuoteThe "French" clue helped - I was baffled by the artillery wheels. It's a Voisin C1, bodied of course by Labourdette.

(Blimey, that was a bit of luck. The "French" clue I referred to actually related to a different one of your puzzles. I got lucky, but the car is pictured on a certain site which concerns itself with Voisin cars.)

I hate to say this, but it isn't a Voisin. I'll have to have a look at this car on "that site".

I've just double -checked, and I'm very embarassed. Of course it's not a Voisin, because the one I found had wire wheels. Doh!

Seen one Labourdette skiff, you've seen them all..............
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 05:50:36 PM
You had me worried there, I thought my source had identified the wrong make of car.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
Perhaps the "French clue" is not correct....could it be a Fiat 519 torpedo skiff?
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
QuotePerhaps the "French clue" is not correct....could it be a Fiat 519 torpedo skiff?
It's a French made car.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 06:08:48 PM
Turcat & Mery?
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
QuoteTurcat & Mery?
No, sorry.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: targhediferro on December 10, 2013, 06:20:57 PM
The last French marque dressed by Labourdette with a skiff body that I know is Peugeot, so that's my guess even if I don't recognise the radiator's profile.
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 10, 2013, 06:32:32 PM
Not a Peugeot.

I'm curious to know, is the skiff body on a 20's Peugeot, or are you referring to the Type 150? because I'd like to see a photo of a 20's Peugeot version.
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Post by: 4popoid on December 11, 2013, 12:11:15 AM
Lorraine-Dietrich Double Phaeton Skiff by Labourdette?
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Post by: SACO on December 11, 2013, 01:45:19 AM
Sizaire Frères ?
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 02:11:23 AM
QuoteLorraine-Dietrich Double Phaeton Skiff by Labourdette?
No, sorry.
QuoteSizaire Frères ?
Not that either.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: 4popoid on December 11, 2013, 02:20:24 AM
I had already ruled out Sizaire Freres, but how about Sizaire Berwick?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 02:22:44 AM
No, sorry.

It's from a very famous French company.

Mercedes
Panhard et Levassor
Rochet-Schneider
Hispano Suiza
Voisin
Renault
Fiat
Turcat & Mery
Peugeot
Lorraine-Dietrich
Sizaire Frères
Sizaire Berwick
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 02:39:44 AM
Yes the Peugeot I was talking about is the type 150, but I though it was possible that Labourdette made another one; for the same reason I guess Delage, even if the only Skiff Delage I know is different.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 02:48:26 AM
I see, I thought it may have been a Type 156, which there are limited photos of. I understand that Type 150 with the skiff body is insured for some ridiculous figure, in the low millions, 2.5, I think.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: 4popoid on December 11, 2013, 03:13:07 AM
Delahaye Double Phaeton Skiff by Labourdette?
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 05:13:38 AM
QuoteDelahaye Double Phaeton Skiff by Labourdette?

No, not a Delahaye.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 05:24:42 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on December 11, 2013, 02:39:44 AM
... for the same reason I guess Delage, even if the only Skiff Delage I know is different.
?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 05:38:13 AM
Sorry, missed that. Not Delage.
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Post by: SACO on December 11, 2013, 06:10:47 AM
Delaunay-Belleville ?
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Post by: bentleybob on December 11, 2013, 06:21:20 AM
Talbot?
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Post by: nicanary on December 11, 2013, 06:50:03 AM
Theophile-Schneider?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 07:16:08 AM
QuoteDelaunay-Belleville ?
QuoteTalbot?
QuoteTheophile-Schneider?
None of those.
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: SACO on December 11, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
Farman ?
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Post by: 4popoid on December 11, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
I think SACO may be correct, but just in case he isn't: Unic?
Title: Re: CG #91
Post by: Craig Gillingham on December 11, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
QuoteFarman ?
QuoteI think SACO may be correct, but just in case he isn't: Unic?

Well done, yes it's a Farman. I originally asked for the model as well, but I'm not 100% sure of this now. I think it's a 1921 or early 1922 A6A, but identifying the make is enough for the point. There is supposed to be a Farman book coming out next year, this car might be in it and have these details.
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