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Title: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ALDI
Post by: guido66 on September 25, 2010, 05:35:45 AM
Make, year and coachbuilder for a point
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 02, 2010, 05:54:09 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 06, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
Surely the pros know their coachbuilders?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: yves on October 06, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
1925 Fiat 519 ?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 06, 2010, 05:49:16 PM
Not a Fiat and not 1925.
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: Allemano on October 06, 2010, 05:54:10 PM
OM?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 06, 2010, 05:57:33 PM
Not OM, either
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Post by: Allemano on October 06, 2010, 06:16:21 PM
Italian at all?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 06, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Partially...
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: Allemano on October 06, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
the body is Italian?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 06, 2010, 06:23:15 PM
No, not the body
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 06, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
1924 Alfa Romeo RL Torpédo Transformable by D´Ieteren Freres
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 02:51:06 AM
Almost spot on  :o, I have another coachbuilder for this car
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: DynaMike on October 07, 2010, 09:55:37 AM
Stratford body?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 07, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 02:51:06 AM
Almost spot on  :o, I have another coachbuilder for this car

This Alfa is featured in the D´Ieteren book! 1924 Bruxelles Salon car,with a Panhard & Levassor and a Minerva...You´re looking for the Patent body I think..that should be a Brevet from Baehr.
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 01:16:37 PM
This is getting interesting.  :) In the lower left corner of the original photo is a sign of another coachbuilder at another show. After this is solved, it would be nice to find out who copied who, or if there was a joint-venture of some kind...
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 07, 2010, 01:23:44 PM
This is the Amsterdam Salon isn´t it? I´ll scan the picture and post here  ;)
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Yes, this photo was taken in Amsterdam  :)
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 04:35:43 PM
After studying the photo closely I can also tell you that it's not a Brevet Baehr...
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: Maxmotor on October 07, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
J. Colson body ?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 07, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Not that.

I meant to lock this puzzle, but I see that I forgot to do so. However, from now on this puzzle is locked for João until his next reply.
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 15, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
Here is the picture :
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 15, 2010, 04:25:30 PM
It is strikingly similar, or even the same car  :o.  But on my photo, the sign in front of the car has another coachbuilders name and even another Brevet!
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 15, 2010, 04:29:04 PM
On closer inspection I see differences. The sheet metal covering the inner side of the leafspring on the D'Ieteren car seems to be missing on mine.
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 15, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
That´s very funny  ;D

The coachbuilder ( if it´s another car ) was from Amsterdam?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 15, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Yes (still locked for you)
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: João on October 15, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
Schutter & van Bakel ?
Title: Re: GG-222
Post by: guido66 on October 16, 2010, 05:27:23 AM
 :thumbsup:

One well earned point for João!

Another point is available for coming up with the name of the Brevet
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: João on October 16, 2010, 02:24:59 PM
Thanks  ;)

The Brevet is French?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on October 16, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
'To be honest I don't know. All I have is the name on the sign. So far I haven't been able to find any information on this Brevet online
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on October 17, 2010, 05:15:28 PM
I've done a bit of genealogical research on the name, and it very unlikely to be French.
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on February 06, 2011, 04:54:55 AM
In the hole she goes..
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: João on February 16, 2011, 01:04:16 PM
The Brevet is Belgian like De Ruytter?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on February 16, 2011, 01:14:45 PM
The name is not of Belgian origin
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: João on February 16, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
Dutch too?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on February 16, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
No, not Dutch.
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: Tom_I on February 16, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
Judging by the spacing of the print on the sign, it must be a very short name. Three or four letters?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on February 16, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
Four letters it is!
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: João on February 16, 2011, 02:37:44 PM
German?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on February 16, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
Nein
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 07, 2011, 03:39:04 PM
RLSS?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on May 07, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
No, it is a well known name of a totally unrelated present day German company. This company is present in pretty much all of Europe, but not in the country where the name is a family name.
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 07, 2011, 05:24:58 PM
Köng?
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ....
Post by: guido66 on May 08, 2011, 02:44:10 AM
No, and it's time for me reveal the unmodified picture. Rereading all the posts I suddenly realised that the name of the Brevet is short for Albert D'Ieteren  :-[

The name displayed is ALDI. They probably wanted to disguise the Belgian Brevet, and make it sound Italian!

I'm sorry for the confusion and I'll donate an extra point to João as he was right all along! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: GG-222 1924 Alfa Romeo Transformable by Schutter & van Bakel, Brevet ALDI
Post by: João on May 08, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
Thank you guido66!  :)
Title: Solved TGF-132: Alfa Romeo RL by Schutter & Van Baker, 1923
Post by: targhediferro on May 25, 2013, 01:17:19 PM
Not so difficult to identify maker and model...but I want to know the coachbuilder too.
Title: Re: TGF-132
Post by: 4popoid on May 25, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
You're right, the make and model are not so difficult.  It is an Alfa Romeo RL from about 1923.  Fortunately, I've seen that picture before, although I can't find it now that I need it.  As I recall, the picture was from a Dutch auto show, and the coachbuilder was Dutch.  I believe it was Schutter & van Bakel.
Title: Re: TGF-132
Post by: targhediferro on May 25, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
Nothing to add. Tomorrow I'll post the original picture. A point for you.
Title: Re: Solved TGF-132: Alfa Romeo RL by Schutter & Van Baker, 1923
Post by: Wendax on May 25, 2013, 04:50:02 PM
As I PM'd you, it is a repost: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13907.0