Mochet Abeille velocar, 1948 (self-built)

Started by grobmotorix, November 28, 2012, 03:41:18 PM

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targhediferro


kwgibbs


grobmotorix

No and no.

The company is not really unknown to friends of small cars.

kwgibbs


grobmotorix


targhediferro


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grobmotorix


targhediferro

Max, 1925?...not so many chances yet!

kwgibbs


grobmotorix

No and no.

The make has 14 hits at autopuzzles´ search engine and three cars of the are presented as puzzles, yet (without mine...).

nicanary

I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

grobmotorix

#37
I think you thought of Mochet.

YES!

LOCKED for you!

targhediferro

Sorry, I know you locked it, but I think you were wrong when you said the name of this car begins with "M", (this has turned me to exclude the correct answer) and, I think it's a mistake to say the mistery car is a Mochet, as this firm appeared just in 1947. So I don't want to score anyway a point, but please check what Charles Mochet did in 1924.

grobmotorix

I can only tell you, that I saw the car myself,
that the detail shot of the identification plate belongs to this car
and that it is a picture of it in the internet, too.

Unfortunately the owner of the car was not available at this day I made the photos.

Hopefully we will find out more than just Mochet and its model name...


Open for all again.

targhediferro

I suppose the car is a C.M., firm that Charles Mochet founded in St.Quentin, Seine, in 1923. Until 1924 they produced only pedal car, than provided it with a 350 CMC.  I took this I formations from G.N.Georgano Encyclopedia. I too tried to call Mons.Mochet on the phone, but I'm afraid He's out.

nicanary

This is all very strange - my entry of "Mouchet" was of course supposed to be Mochet, but even so it was just a guess with no investigation on my part.

Now I have looked at the entries in Georgano the idea that it was built by CM or Mochet seems unlikely. It is far too big to be a converted pedal car, and looks more like a cut-down small sports-car of the late 20s/30s. The wire wheels especially look very 30s. It is nothing like any of Mochet's regular production models of whatever era.

Maybe someone has fixed his plate to another "homemade" car?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

targhediferro

I think what Nicanary says is really agreeable...

targhediferro

The only image I found of C.M. is hardly similar to the object of the quiz...so I think that's a one-off eventually based on a CM, but I've no further proves.

mekubb

Time to move this one up to the Pro's ? May be they can tell us more

grobmotorix


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Wendax

I came across some more pictures without any additional information but the Mochet Velocar sign:

grobmotorix

#48
LOCKED for you!

This is exactly the car.

And its name can be read on the cooler mask...


grobmotorix

I can imagine, that this is a one-off, using just the Mochet plate to legalize it in a way.
No modern technical engineer will know an original Mochet, really.

This one here was rear engined, but I can´t tell if it´s a original Mochet design: