SAC#397: 1912 Hansa (Ganza ) Typ B6/20PS for the Russian market

Started by SACO, January 25, 2013, 02:15:05 AM

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SACO

What's this and where ?

SACO


targhediferro

Hands, typ D, 10-30cv 1922

SACO


targhediferro

Sorry, typing mistake...1912.

SACO

Yes , 1912 , but not Hands !

kwgibbs


targhediferro

I couldn't believe and understand...I taped Hands instead of Hansa...that's the automatic corrector.

SACO

Yes ,Hansa 1912 ! :)
But which Hansa ?
Locked for you !

targhediferro

I guessed type D, 10-30 hp...

SACO

A little smaller ;
but especially, the logo of the car is not Hansa ! :)

targhediferro

Is perhaps the 6-14 cv with logo HAG?

SACO


vintman

Hi,  My records suggert this is a Hansa that was mage for the Russian market. It looks like the 6/18 Tenerplan but the logo in cyrillic suggests it is a Ganza. The 6/18 did not have the cyclops headlamp.  Regards  Vintman

SACO

Locked until 05:17:41 pm ! :o

targhediferro

I don't know cirillic, but I found this picture of the quiz car, reported as a Stanislav Kiriletz car.
I suppose the logo in the middle of the grill is simply the name Hansa as it's written in cirillic alphabeth, and probably it means this car has actually built for eastern market.
The car, if not a 6/14, may be a Typ B?

SACO

Yes ,1912 Hansa Telegram Typ B6/20PS for the Russian market !
But to whom to give the point ?

vintman

 Hi, Sorry, I did not realise the Lock was stil operational. The script does indeed read Ganza.  Vintman

SACO

1 point for every ( vintman and targhediferro )  :)

targhediferro


Wendax

I think that the "Telegram" part of the name is wrong. The Hansa Telegramm was a tandem seater dual phaeton with middle steering, built by the coachbuilder Alexis Kellner from Berlin. It was exhibited at the 1911 car exhibition in Berlin.


dzima1985

The car was presented at the Saint-Petersburg autosalon in 1913.
Bodied by Toenjes, designed by Ernst Neumann-Neander, additional headlight (Cyklopenauge) in the radiator - it is his idea.
Photo by Stanislav Kiriletz.

Wendax


vintman

Hi  Thanks for the point and thanks for the additional photos. I note in Georganos that; " Sevral sports models were made, in particular the B and F  (1796 and 2515) which had a pointed tail 2 seater or 4 seater bodies, oval radiators and sometimes a single cyclops eye headlamp in the middle."  Regards  Vintman