Solved: Allemano's № 877 - 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co.

Allemano · May 21, 2013, 02:14:46 PM

Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Spain

kwgibbs · May 21, 2013, 03:06:06 PM

how about Greece?

Allemano · May 21, 2013, 03:12:26 PM

Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Greece
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Spain

kwgibbs · May 21, 2013, 03:24:28 PM

Scandinavia?

Allemano · May 21, 2013, 11:41:14 PM

Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Greece
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Scandinavia
Spain

kwgibbs · May 21, 2013, 11:48:49 PM

Switzerland?

Allemano · May 22, 2013, 12:13:54 AM

Quote from: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
Switzerland?

Yes!

kwgibbs · May 22, 2013, 12:40:30 AM

any relation to Saurer?

Allemano · May 22, 2013, 01:08:38 AM

Quote from: kwgibbs on May 22, 2013, 12:40:30 AM
any relation to Saurer?

Not as far as I know.

4popoid · May 22, 2013, 02:36:02 AM

Although I can't find any pictures, I understand Mowag built some three wheelers. Might this be a Mowag?

Allemano · May 23, 2013, 04:16:44 AM

Not Mowag

4popoid · May 23, 2013, 08:00:32 AM

SIG?

Bill Murray · May 23, 2013, 09:09:02 AM

Total frustration......

Was the manufacturer generally known for building vehicles?

Bill

Allemano · May 23, 2013, 12:07:42 PM

Quote from: 4popoid on May 23, 2013, 08:00:32 AM
SIG?

Not SIG.

Allemano · May 23, 2013, 12:08:55 PM

Quote from: Bill Murray on May 23, 2013, 09:09:02 AM
Total frustration......

Was the manufacturer generally known for building vehicles?

Bill

I have to admit I didn't know the manufacturer before. But after searching a bit I found many vehicles built by that company.

Bill Murray · May 23, 2013, 02:38:04 PM

I am out of names........
Tribelhorn?
Bill

4popoid · May 23, 2013, 04:00:17 PM

SLM of Winterthur?

Allemano · May 24, 2013, 12:41:23 AM

Neither SLM nor Tribelhorn.

4popoid · May 25, 2013, 01:16:26 PM

Is this vehicle by a firm normally thought of as a coachbuilder? I am thinking particularly of Seitz (Emmishofen) which was reformed into Mowag.

Bill Murray · May 25, 2013, 08:17:13 PM

So many, too many, hours invested in this one but I cannot give up.

I think 4popoid and I are using the same data bases and it does not seem to be working.

Is it fair to ask if the manufacturer of this vehicle is not, in fact, a known "manufacturer of brand name marques" but a coachbuilder of vehicles on some other chassis.

Bill

Allemano · May 26, 2013, 05:32:21 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on May 25, 2013, 01:16:26 PM
Is this vehicle by a firm normally thought of as a coachbuilder? I am thinking particularly of Seitz (Emmishofen) which was reformed into Mowag.

Seitz is correct!

Now give me the complete name of the company, a possible year and the type of drive and the point is yours!

LOCKED for 4popoid

4popoid · May 26, 2013, 08:26:57 PM

Anything that I can find on Seitz is pretty sketchy, but here is what I have:

Seitz & Cie. AG (founded in 1850) was located in Kreuzlingen (Emmishofen before 1928), Switzerland (near the German border). After 100 years in existence, the firm merged with MOWAG AG, Kreuzlingen (founded in 1946), in 1951, to become MOWAG Seitz & Ruf AG, which, in 1954, became MOWAG Motorwagenfabrik AG. The company is currently known as General Dynamics European Land Systems - Mowag GmbH.

I haven't been able to locate any information on the puzzle car, but I did determine that Seitz had produced a number of electric drive vehicles, so I'm guessing that this vehicle may be an electric drive, although I understand that Seitz produced some serial hybrids, so this might have been an electric drive with a diesel (Seitz made an under floor model), or gasoline, engine to drive a generator.

As for a date, I can only speculate, based on cab style, that it is from the 1940's.

Allemano · May 28, 2013, 02:02:11 PM

Quote from: 4popoid on May 26, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
Anything that I can find on Seitz is pretty sketchy, but here is what I have:

Seitz & Cie. AG (founded in 1850) was located in Kreuzlingen (Emmishofen before 1928), Switzerland (near the German border). After 100 years in existence, the firm merged with MOWAG AG, Kreuzlingen (founded in 1946), in 1951, to become MOWAG Seitz & Ruf AG, which, in 1954, became MOWAG Motorwagenfabrik AG. The company is currently known as General Dynamics European Land Systems - Mowag GmbH.

I haven't been able to locate any information on the puzzle car, but I did determine that Seitz had produced a number of electric drive vehicles, so I'm guessing that this vehicle may be an electric drive, although I understand that Seitz produced some serial hybrids, so this might have been an electric drive with a diesel (Seitz made an under floor model), or gasoline, engine to drive a generator.

As for a date, I can only speculate, based on cab style, that it is from the 1940's.

Good enough for me!

I have it as 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co. (Kreuzlingen/CH).

Well done and another point for you!

fromwien · October 28, 2022, 05:53:58 AM

Please identify this car: Make? Type? Year?

fuerza · October 29, 2022, 04:14:33 AM

German? Looks similar to Weise.

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Solved: Allemano's № 877 - 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co.