An impressive truck.
I don't know ecactly the chassis, but the coachbuilder.
One point for you if you know it, too.
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Australian?
No.
Has to be South American.... Argentinian?
Is it a White by John Labatt?
None of the above mentioned.
Another Verheul-bodied Floating Pullman ? We already had the Beers-Verheul from 1933 http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=18236.msg181099#msg181099
No.
Dutch coachbuilder ?
Not Dutch
American ?
No
British?
Not British.
From Belgium ?
Some observations, but no answer.
It is a RHD tractor so that gives us a fairly limited range of countries.
My best guess so far is that it is a bus delivering passengers to a cruise ship or some such.
Note the "waves" motif on the tractor and trailer. As well, having been on a few cruises, the venue could be the covered hall where you get off the bus, your baggage gets collected and you eventually get on the ship.
Of course, I often come up with very crazy ideas but at least some of the observations may be of some help.
Sodomka?
No Bill, the waves indicate something different... The picture was taken on a truck fair. And it's not a bus for passengers.
It's not from Belgium either.
BTW: I can only reply to what I know about the coachwork company. For the chassis I've got no info. It might be from one of the countries you've asked for, but I doubt.
You have ruled out Australia, but how about New Zealand?
No
Thank you for your kind and gentle correcting of my wrong course of investigation.
It would now seem that we are looking for some sort of advertising vehicle and the "waves" are hopefully the corporate sign or logo of whatever company the vehicle was built for.
The RHD is a key ID characteristic now and we have eliminated the UK, Aus and NZ as well as Argentina.
We now have to decide if the vehicle was built before the roughly 1939 period or after WWII as the pool of RHD countries in Europe, or countries that kept a mix of LHD and RHD vehicles changed quite a bit after the war. I am assuming here that it did not come from Japan or India.
I have just gotten back to my PC and I will pursue some of those questions but in the meantime it may be a thought starter for another member.
OK, after carefully looking at the photo again, I am going to say it is pre WWII based on the clearance markers on the front of the truck, the size and style of the headlamps and the style/design of the front bumper.
That would add 4-5 more countries to the list of possibilities.
Sorry I didn't reply to that, but that steering wheel might lead you to wrong conclusions. I don't know why it's apparently RHD, but it's not from those countries where you drive on the wrong site of the street...
It predates WW II by five years.
Thanks again for not abandoning us, this is not an easy quiz for sure.
Regarding the RHD vs LHD question, there were several countries prior to WWII that were in a nominal sense a LHD country but where many private and commercial vehicles were fitted with RHD. Italy and Switzerland come to mind here. Then of course there was Sweden, one of my 4 "adopted" homelands, where it was a declared RHD country but virtually every car and truck was LHD and more or less only busses and Postal vehicles were RHD up until 1967.
The next question is it depends on where you live, but WWII began for Europe in 1939 and I assume you are using this as the date from which to go backwards. or 1934 as the build year for this beauty.
Yes it's from 1934 and it's indeed an advertising vehicle.
Let's say you're circling the right country... It's still not one of the above mentioned.
Based on your last reply, is it a 1934 German product?
Yes it's from Germany!
I just need the coachbuilder and the name of the company it was built for.
(not easy I think..)
Looking for German semi-trailer buses, Karosserie Schumann from Werdau comes to mind.
There are more countries drive on the left than people sometimes realise.
Most of Africa did until they all started to gain independence in the late 50s/early 60s, when many switched over to the right for reasons I don't know; also Pakistan, many Caribbean countries, Thailand.. The pool is actually quite big!
Quote from: Wendax on October 15, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Looking for German semi-trailer buses, Karosserie Schumann from Werdau comes to mind.
Not them.
Quote from: Allemano on October 15, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Wendax on October 15, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Looking for German semi-trailer buses, Karosserie Schumann from Werdau comes to mind.
Not them.
Gaubschat ? It built beautiful Werbewagen for Kienzle Uhren.
Quote from: pguillem on October 15, 2013, 06:34:45 PM
Quote from: Allemano on October 15, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Wendax on October 15, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Looking for German semi-trailer buses, Karosserie Schumann from Werdau comes to mind.
Not them.
Gaubschat ? It built beautiful Werbewagen for Kienzle Uhren.
Gaubschat is correct! Locked for you!
I can.t find any Gaubschat vehicle related with boats or yachting. Probably Wendax will know this one.
Is this still locked?
Quote from: pguillem on October 15, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
I can.t find any Gaubschat vehicle related with boats or yachting. Probably Wendax will know this one.
It's not related to boats or yachting.
Quote from: mymokke on October 16, 2013, 12:24:08 AM
Is this still locked?
unlocked again!
It was shown at the 1934 Berlin show: "The biggest vehicle exhibited was the Gaubschat articulated six-wheeler equipped as a dry cleaner's showroom and carrier with large windows and hundreds of dresses on hangers along the sides. An elaborately equipped travelling shop of this make was shown outside."
Quote from: Wendax on October 16, 2013, 03:15:49 AM
It was shown at the 1934 Berlin show: "The biggest vehicle exhibited was the Gaubschat articulated six-wheeler equipped as a dry cleaner's showroom and carrier with large windows and hundreds of dresses on hangers along the sides. An elaborately equipped travelling shop of this make was shown outside."
That's a good start! Locked for you to find the company's name.
I'll start with the biggest one: Spindler from Berlin, which had been taken over by Schering in 1925?
Quote from: Wendax on October 16, 2013, 04:02:53 AM
I'll start with the biggest one: Spindler from Berlin, which had been taken over by Schering in 1925?
Not them, but you're in the right city.
I added one point to pguillem's score. He already correctly replied to what I've asked for.
Another point's waiting.
After Bill Murray gave me a big hint by supplying the latter part of the company name, I remembered the full name that I had seen quite a while ago when a picture of this truck was auctioned. I didn't make the connection to a Berlin dry cleaner then, because it sounded much more like a sightseeing company. The name we are looking for is Landrock.
Thanks, Bill! :hail:
I thought I had deleted the photo, but it was in my files all the time!
Very nice, good job!
Next point to your tally.
Great job Gerd!!!!
After our exchange, I was finally able to break through some of the Berlin history sites with the additional information.
I gather the company was called Wäscherie Landrock and was based in Köpernick. (Sorry, I misplaced my umlaut instructions).
I won't post the story here, but there is also another chapter of the history of the Gaubschat firm on the internet.
Sad, but a part of history.
Edit: I found the umlaut instruction and fixed the two words.
Bill
Yes, some of the most awful trucks in history were made by Gaubschat, and that is not meant aesthetically.
One more quick query/comment.
I am still unsure why this truck/tractor is fitted with RHD as it is being used in Germany at a time when I believe virtually all traffic was on the right.
I am not familiar with the use of these travelling display trailers in Germany, and they were not terribly popular in the US from what I can see at least when it comes to something like selling a dry cleaning service.
Can it be that the truck/tractor trailer was supposed to be parked next to the sidewalks in heavy pedestrian traffic areas?
My theory is that unless the display was at a fair or exposition, almost no-one could see what was in the windows on the side opposite the driver, ie, when the truck was moving in traffic. On the other hand the driver could maneuver the truck much better from the right side to the sidewalk and also be able to monitor the visitor/viewer traffic, and/or hand out leaflets etc. to prospective customers.
Any ideas??
Bill
Quote from: Bill Murray on October 16, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
it is being used in Germany at a time when I believe virtually all traffic was on the right.
Hopefully it all was, otherwise there must have been major problems!
A magazine clipping:
Nice!
:thumbsup:
Excellent and thank you!!!
May I ask again if any of you ever figured out what this vehicle might be which is obviously based on the same styling concept.
Bill