Solved - als070 - Carrozzeria Scioneri

[thorax]

#4: wheels seems to be a Fiat Balilla ones, but engine and steering wheel ...... 

[targhediferro]

#2 seems to be a Fiat 514 or 508 with a strange radiator grill; do you know if that grill owns to that particular kind of truck or perhaps it has been adapted only at the one in the picture?

[als15]

#2 seems to be a Fiat 514 or 508 with a strange radiator grill; do you know if that grill owns to that particular kind of truck or perhaps it has been adapted only at the one in the picture?

IMO it's bigger. If I read correctly the license plate (CN 4047), it should be from 1930, but the shape looks even older.

#4: wheels seems to be a Fiat Balilla ones, but engine and steering wheel ...... 

I agree about the wheels, but it's a quite common design. IMO, the real clue is that strange scuttle-plate and also the garbox on the steering column. I don't think it's a Balilla.

[targhediferro]

I suppose that #4 could be a fiat 1100E, it had that air filter, the column gear, and 150x50 pneus. The steering may be an aftermarket one, so we could imagine that chassis to become a beautiful cabriolet.

[als15]

I suppose that #4 could be a fiat 1100E, it had that air filter, the column gear, and 150x50 pneus. The steering may be an aftermarket one, so we could imagine that chassis to become a beautiful cabriolet.

I'm not 100% sure, but I can agree with you. BTW, the 1100 E does have the steering-column mounted gearshift lever; also the brake fluyd reservoir in that position and the vertical air filter match. Only, I never saw before that flat panel...
Nevertheless, let's say it is indeed a Fiat 1100 E.

[targhediferro]

Something about #2:
Year about 1930
front lights fiat or anyway similar
Right hand drive (common in Italy too for trucks)
Probably 4c, I suppose not under 1100, not over 1500
Front fender quite elegant, perhaps coming from a saloon (I mean not properly designed for a truck)
Very particular front grill, different from all Fiat, Lancia, Ceirano, OM, Bianchi I know;
So, as we have two other German trucks, is it possible this is not a not Italian vehicle?

[als15]

Yes, it can even be not Italian: as you see, this workshop hosts a lot of different vehicles.
On the other hand, if I read correctly the license-plate, it has a pre-war Italian registration, so it's not a military wreck. Foreing cars in Italy in '30s were rare, but of course some have been imported.

About the radiator frame, I agree with you: it's indeed the clue to identify it because it's very particular.

[ropat53]

#2 Mathis PY 1930

[als15]

Great solution! A very well deserved point for you!

[Iluvatar]

#2 Mathis PY 1930