Solved - als070 - Carrozzeria Scioneri

[Iluvatar]

#3 and #5 maybe Fiat 1500?

[als15]

Not that. Look at the cars: even if naked, the chassis tells more... and there are at least 2 reasons why they cannot be 1500...

[Iluvatar]

Not that. Look at the cars: even if naked, the chassis tells more... and there are at least 2 reasons why they cannot be 1500...

You are right... the engine looks like Fiat 1100/103... right?

[Iluvatar]

... Scioneri?? (from Savigliano...)

[Bill Murray]

Just some more thoughts.
I am still lost on the coach builder, but regarding the two identical vehicles, can they be former Fiat 1100 Coloniale (spelling?) staff car vehicles sans bodywork??

[als15]

Two points for Iluvatar!
The coachbuilder is indeed Scioneri (which was a former employee of Fissore and who took over the military production of Viberti when his plant was destroyed by the British bombing).
And cars 3-5 are Fiat 1100/103.

For Bill: he was also reworking ex-army vehicles. Not only them, however.
And the cars are 1100/103 with unibody (see the wheelarches) and not former versions with separate chassis.

[Iluvatar]

#5 sholud be a car simlar to this one, from 1953... looking at the shape of the wood maquette for the roof... I search a 1100 with that roof and I found Scioneri...

[als15]

Yes, I think it's that one.
What I'm not sure, is if it is actually a wooden body frame (but the pillars look too thick) or a very simple mock-up for the metal-sheets forming.

[Iluvatar]

Yes, I think it's that one.
What I'm not sure, is if it is actually a wooden body frame (but the pillars look too thick) or a very simple mock-up for the metal-sheets forming.

I think a mock-up, the windows of the finished cars are bigger (and the pillars thicker as you said)...

[Iluvatar]

#8 Fiat 615?

[als15]

Definitely not.

[Iluvatar]

#7 maybe a Lancia Aprilia?

[als15]

It could be, but I'm not sure. Have you a picture of an Aprilia chassis to show us?

[als15]

Double-checked: no, it doesn't look like an Aprilia. Different scuttle, different tail...

[als15]

Ok, this one needs a professional expertise...

[Wendax]

Truck #8 is a Hanomag L 28 in the early version with rear hinged doors

[als15]

Of course!
Now only 3 are left.  ;)

[Wendax]

At first sight, #7 looks like a Peugeot 203 to me.

[als15]

Could be: can you post a reference picture to be compared?

[Wendax]

I found a picture of a 203 with detached front fenders, and it looks different underneath  :(

[als15]

Here are the close-up at high-res of the 3 still missing. Perhaps they can help...

[Wendax]

In the high resolution picture you can recognize the Peugeot lion of #7 (see below).
What fooled me was that in the Scioneri picture parts of the right front are missing, not just detached fenders.

[als15]

Indeed! Another one gone!

[thorax]

#2 : OM?

[als15]

To be proven...
I don't know, but the radiator frame is quite particular. A picture will probably demonstrate if you are right...