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Solved - Bus Puzzle No. 5

Started by Carnut, August 05, 2013, 11:29:47 AM

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Carnut

Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

Carnut

OK then - all you Pro's who have your answers ready - notebooks out!
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Wendax

16: 1947 Crossley, operated by Nederlandse Spoorwegen

25: 1938 Škoda Š 532 Prototype


Carnut

Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2013, 05:17:53 AM
16: 1947 Crossley, operated by Nederlandse Spoorwegen

25: 1938 Škoda Š 532 Prototype

Very good!  Assuming 'Spoorwegen' means 'Railways' then that one's right, although I had it as 1948 but we won't quibble about 1 year..
The other one is also correct so that's your 2 points for the moment..
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Wendax

Quote from: Carnut on August 27, 2013, 05:23:00 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2013, 05:17:53 AM
16: 1947 Crossley, operated by Nederlandse Spoorwegen

25: 1938 Škoda Š 532 Prototype

Very good!  Assuming 'Spoorwegen' means 'Railways' then that one's right, although I had it as 1948 but we won't quibble about 1 year..
The other one is also correct so that's your 2 points for the moment..

Spoorwegen is Dutch for railways. I'll PM you the site of the Crossley's owner. You'll find the year there. ;)

Wendax

Not fishing for any points, but adding some information: #33 originates from a 1932 patent by Bel Geddes, patent no. 90,577.

Carnut

Quote from: Wendax on August 27, 2013, 05:51:57 AM
Not fishing for any points, but adding some information: #33 originates from a 1932 patent by Bel Geddes, patent no. 90,577.

Thanks.  I'll add the info.
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Tom_I

No. 3, the double decker in flood water was apparently photographed in Al Rasheed Street in Baghdad, Iraq, in 1950.

Carnut

Quote from: Tom_I on August 27, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
No. 3, the double decker in flood water was apparently photographed in Al Rasheed Street in Baghdad, Iraq, in 1950.

Indeed that is how it's captioned, yes!
I thought the design looked a little newer than that but that's the only information I have so it's your point.
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pguillem

No 30 is the Troliga Sirus made in Levoca, Eastern Slovakia
No 31 is  a Guy CX from 1928 bodied by Dodson, from Wolverhampton

pguillem

Quote from: Tom_I on August 27, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
No. 3, the double decker in flood water was apparently photographed in Al Rasheed Street in Baghdad, Iraq, in 1950.

The Baghdad double-deckers in their glory.

Carnut

Quote from: pguillem on August 27, 2013, 09:44:01 AM
No 30 is the Troliga Sirus made in Levoca, Eastern Slovakia
No 31 is  a Guy CX from 1928 bodied by Dodson, from Wolverhampton

That's 2 points for you!
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Carnut

Quote from: pguillem on August 27, 2013, 09:59:11 AM
Quote from: Tom_I on August 27, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
No. 3, the double decker in flood water was apparently photographed in Al Rasheed Street in Baghdad, Iraq, in 1950.

The Baghdad double-deckers in their glory.

Thanks.
Here's a copy of their schedule from 1961.
Although the bodywork of those buses in the flood look the same as the Regent V shown in the schedule it's not possible to tell from the back if they are the same; you'd need to see the grille, but I think that bodywork suits that grille much better and is much more likely than if it's fitted to a bus with the old exposed radiator type of AEC, i.e. a 1950 model.
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ropat53

Can we all answer, I've already answered two?

Carnut

Quote from: ropat53 on August 27, 2013, 10:42:03 AM
Can we all answer, I've already answered two?

Not yet.  Have to give the Pro's, who haven't had the chance yet, the opportunity to respond to some.
Once the initial rush (if there is one!) of Pro answers has subsided I'll change the rules and maybe let puzzlers answer another 2 each.  Give it a few days.
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Hiawatha

Quote from: Carnut on August 27, 2013, 10:09:56 AM
Quote from: pguillem on August 27, 2013, 09:59:11 AM
Quote from: Tom_I on August 27, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
No. 3, the double decker in flood water was apparently photographed in Al Rasheed Street in Baghdad, Iraq, in 1950.

The Baghdad double-deckers in their glory.

Thanks.
Here's a copy of their schedule from 1961.
Although the bodywork of those buses in the flood look the same as the Regent V shown in the schedule it's not possible to tell from the back if they are the same; you'd need to see the grille, but I think that bodywork suits that grille much better and is much more likely than if it's fitted to a bus with the old exposed radiator type of AEC, i.e. a 1950 model.

The 1950 date has to be inaccurate. Baghdad first 100 AEC Regal single deckers arrived in late 1951 followed by a repeat order of a further 100 similar vehicles  and 20 AEC Regent III double deckers in 1953. The first batch of 100 Regent V arrived in 1958/59, second batch of 80 in 1961/62 and the final batch of 100 in 1966/67. In 1966 28 bare chassis were delivered as spares. All vehicles were bodied by Park Royal. The bus in the flooded street must be one of the 20 Regent III delivered in 1953.

Carnut

Yes, fully agree.
This was the picture I used.  I have absolutely no idea what it says, but the one thing we can all see is the '1950', which surely is supposed to be the date.  It can't be right.
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Tom_I

I agree with the comments, but I just took the date from the caption on the photo.

I have been looking up about flooding in Baghdad, and the worst floods at about that time were in 1954. That's probably a more likely date for the photo.

Carnut

Quote from: Tom_I on August 28, 2013, 05:34:56 AM
I agree with the comments, but I just took the date from the caption on the photo.

I have been looking up about flooding in Baghdad, and the worst floods at about that time were in 1954. That's probably a more likely date for the photo.

Yes, I had the same information so that's all we could work on!  You won't lose your point!
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D-type

Is no 11 in Greece - Thessalonika perhaps?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

Carnut

Quote from: D-type on August 29, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
Is no 11 in Greece - Thessalonika perhaps?

No, it's not in Greece.
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Carnut

#46
Guesses have dropped off so it's time to change the rules slightly.
It will be maximum 4 points per puzzler from 1700 hrs today UK time (1800 hrs Central European and 1200 hrs Eastern USA time).

4 points per puzzler means a total of 4 points, however many the puzzler already had, not 4 more points!
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ropat53

#7 – 1959 Bedford SB3 – Body by H.V. Burlingham - What's unusual about it: All glass fiber 41 seater body.

#11 – Where operated:  Chicago – It's the first model made by Chicago Motor Bus Co. in 1917.

pguillem

Let's go !
#4  is a General American Aerocoach from 1952 named Peacemaker
#12 is a Guy prototype bodied by Busaf operated in Port Elisabeth

Hiawatha

#49
5)   1930 Panhard & Levassor Scemia K34 operated in Toulouse (France(
18) 1963 Ford Thames Trader, Strachan body, used to carry bycicles through Dartford Tunnel (UK)