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Title: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: woodinsight on December 12, 2012, 05:12:31 PM
For a point I need the base car, model, what engine it used and the name of the constructor
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: FrontMan on December 15, 2012, 06:46:26 PM
Looks like an MG engine.
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 19, 2012, 02:48:10 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on December 15, 2012, 06:46:26 PM
Looks like an MG engine.
There is an MG connection but not the engine!
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 25, 2012, 03:44:15 AM
Moving up a level
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: gilescooperuk on December 25, 2012, 05:48:17 PM
Bmc a series engine?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 04:58:27 AM
Quote from: gilescooperuk on December 25, 2012, 05:48:17 PM
Bmc a series engine?
No - not a British engine....
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: D-type on December 26, 2012, 06:23:12 AM
Peugeot engine?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: D-type on December 26, 2012, 06:23:12 AM
Peugeot engine?
Not a Peugeot or indeed a French engine......
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
American?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
American?
Nothing to do with America - North or South
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: RayTheRat on December 26, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
Italian motor?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: RayTheRat on December 26, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
Italian motor?

Not an Italian motor.

A clue (similar to one I've given in my #1061) is that the base car comes from one country but the engine and car were constructed and raced in another......
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 12:15:43 PM
Something tells me this isn't the UK. Is it Australia? Maybe MG chassis with Holden engine.
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
Quote from: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 12:15:43 PM
Something tells me this isn't the UK. Is it Australia? Maybe MG chassis with Holden engine.
Yes - you're spot on there......
LOCKED for you to tell me the name of the constructor and the MG model used for the chassis
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Is it an original version of the Norman Crowfoot Special? MG TC chassis?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: nicanary on December 26, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Is it an original version of the Norman Crowfoot Special? MG TC chassis?
Not by Norman Crowfoot and the it's not a TF chassis.
I'll keep it locked for you for one more try only.
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: nicanary on December 27, 2012, 07:44:11 AM
Unlock it by all means. I've tried Google and Google Image, and I've been through the nostalgia forum's Australian Racing 50s thread. No clues. Is it a pre-war Magnette chassis?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on December 27, 2012, 08:02:53 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 27, 2012, 07:44:11 AM
Unlock it by all means. I've tried Google and Google Image, and I've been through the nostalgia forum's Australian Racing 50s thread. No clues. Is it a pre-war Magnette chassis?
Okay thanks nicanary - by the way it's a post WWII chassis that it's based on......
OPEN again
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2013, 03:10:00 AM
I wonder if a Pro knows the answer?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2013, 04:26:23 AM
MG TC chassis?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2013, 04:35:08 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 05, 2013, 04:26:23 AM
MG TC chassis?
A later model than a TC which rather belies the look of the car!
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2013, 04:56:31 AM
MG TD?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2013, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 05, 2013, 04:56:31 AM
MG TD?
Hmm....I now have conflicting evidence that it's either a TD or TF chassis.

Just to sum up what has been established so far.....
It's an Australian MG TD/TF? based car with a Holden engine.
All I need now the the name of the person who built it.
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: pnegyesi on January 05, 2013, 07:05:09 AM
is the car still around?
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2013, 07:55:05 AM
Quite honestly I don't know what happened to the car.
I've now confirmed it was an MG TD Special fitted with a Holden engine.

Another clue - the man I'm looking for had a business to do with Holden engines and also raced other Holden engined MGs.
This one was, I believe, the first one.

Here's another small photo of the car -
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: Wendax on January 05, 2013, 04:15:26 PM
This car was built by Holt Binnie in 1953.
Title: Re: MJW #1058
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
That's it - well found Wendax. Yet another point for you.

Holt Binnie's business was the recycling and restoration of Holden crankshafts.
He later raced a standard MG TF fitted with a special Holden engine and later acquired the Gladiator, a Holden-engined sports racer fitted with a Buchanan body.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: Craig Gillingham on January 08, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
I can guarantee it's not a Holden engine. I'd say your source is incorrect.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: woodinsight on January 09, 2013, 03:21:06 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on January 08, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
I can guarantee it's not a Holden engine. I'd say your source is incorrect.
Interesting Craig - I've been trying to find the source I obtained the puzzle photo from without success.

Are you saying the engine is an MG (modified TD?)
If so I will alter the heading and allocate additional points where they are due.....
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: Craig Gillingham on January 09, 2013, 03:39:35 AM
It looks like an MG engine to me or at least something BMC related, but I'm unsure, I would get a second opinion. I understand you're probably not familiar with Holden engines, but I can assure you, in this case it isn't a Holden engine. The Holden Grey motors (they were painted grey) went from 1948-63, and they used the same basic engine configuration for the 6 cylinders up to the mid 80's.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: woodinsight on January 09, 2013, 03:50:02 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on January 09, 2013, 03:39:35 AM
It looks like an MG engine to me or at least something BMC related, but I'm unsure, I would get a second opinion. I understand you're probably not familiar with Holden engines, but I can assure you, in this case it isn't a Holden engine. The Holden Grey motors (they were painted grey) went from 1948-63, and they used the same basic engine configuration for the 6 cylinders up to the mid 80's.
Thanks Craig, that looks convincing to me.

Anyone with a second opinion?
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1058 - Binnie MG Holden Special 1953
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2014, 08:08:51 AM
The puzzle car should be Holt Binnie's alloy bodied MG TD.
The MG-Holden Special was this: an MG TF with an Holden Grey six.