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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: woodinsight on December 27, 2012, 02:54:32 AM
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First of quite a few from me - have to keep the Rookies section topped up!
Identify this saloon by naming the marque (easy), model, year and coachbuilder (not quite so easy) for one point
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Experts?
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Hispano-Suiza H6b?
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I think targhediferro is correct that this is a Hispano-Suiza H6b. I will flesh that out a bit more by saying that I think it is an earlier model, say 1922, and I will take something of a contrarian position (only because I don't think that they did that many Hispanos), and say that I think that the body looks like the work of Van den Plas.
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It is a Hispano-Suiza H6B but it is a little newer than 1922.....
Bodywork is not by Van den Plas.
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Yes, I thought Van den Plas was a reach, but I thought I saw some hints. Let's try the obvious (even though it probably isn't, since you said the coach builder would be a little harder): 1924 Hispano Suiza H6b by Kellner.
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1924 is correct and I was wrong regarding the model - it's apparently an H6C
It's not by Kellner though and I think the key now will be to find out in which country the bodywork was built.
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Yes, I think that it would be good to rule out the obvious. So, do I assume correctly that the coachbuilder is not French?
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H6C Tulipwood Niuport, 1924
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The coachbuilder is not French and that rules out Nieuport also (that's an entirely different car - sports model with a body of tulip wood)
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I think that I shall return to my original line of thought, and see if the coachbuilder is Belgian. If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by D'Ieteren.
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Not by d'Ieteren and not Belgian....
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How about Dutch? If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Van Rijswijk.
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By Binder ?
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Mulliner?
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How about Dutch? If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Van Rijswijk.
No, the coachbuilder is not Dutch
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By Binder ?
Not Binder and not by a French coachbuilder (see reply 9)
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Mulliner?
Not Mulliner and the coachbuilder is not British.
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Just to sum up -
The car has been identified as a Hispano-Suiza H6C of 1924.
The coachbuilder is not from -
Belgium
France
Netherlands
UK
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From Spain ?
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From Switzerland ? Gangloff ?
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Sala?
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None of those so far mentioned
Belgium
France
Netherlands
Spain
Switzerland
UK
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How about Italian? If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Castagna.
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How about Italian? If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Castagna.
Not Italian either....
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I going to go out on that limb again, and try USA. If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Rollston.
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Baffling question, indeed.
I am supporting 4popoid at this point for a couple of reasons but I am still not sure.
The vehicle in the background looks to be something American, even including the license/registration plate.
The dress of the spectators in the photo seem to be "working class" folk and could possibly be Americans also.
My main concern is the shades over the three windows which is not really typical of American coachwork but usually more European.
If the bodywork is truly American, I would hazard a guess that it has to be either a car bodied in the New York area or the Los Angeles area as Hispanos were truly rare in this country and most often to be found on one coast or the other.
Go for it 4popoid, I am stuck.
Bill
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No it's not by a coachbuilder from the USA.
Hopefully that will cut out some unnecessary research...
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Well, unless it's a smaller producer, that pretty much leaves Germany. If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Erdmann & Rossi.
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Well, unless it's a smaller producer, that pretty much leaves Germany. If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Erdmann & Rossi.
Not German...
You have to go further afield ;)
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That would be from Czechoslovakia?
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That would be from Czechoslovakia?
Further than that.....
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Laurin & Klement / Skoda ?
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Austria? If so, I'll call the puzzle car a: 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Lohner.
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Russia ?
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Uhlic?
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That would be from Czechoslovakia?
Further than that.....
Australia?
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Not Czech, Austrian or Russian........BUT it is Australian!
I'll LOCK it for D-Type until his next answer to see if he can come up with the name of the Australian coachbuilder.
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Please unlock I was just fishing.
Blind guess: Holden made body
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Please unlock I was just fishing.
Blind guess: Holden made body
Thanks Duncan but it's not a body by Holden...
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James Flood?
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Wilkinson & Sons ?
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1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by T. J. Richards?
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Kellow & Falkiner?
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Not by James Flood, Richards, Wilkinson or Kellow & Falkiner.......
Craig's answer is closest.
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1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Martin & King?
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1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Martin & King?
Not by Martin & King.
If my source is correct, the coachbuilder shares it's name with a well-known British one...
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That could be a great hint. How about 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Coachcraft (G.H.Olding & Sons)?
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That could be a great hint. How about 1924 Hispano Suiza H6C by Coachcraft (G.H.Olding & Sons)?
Not that
This coachbuilder is normally referred to by two words....
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James Young ?
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James Young ?
That's the answer - James Young of Melbourne.
Well done and another point for you.
Here's the original photo and caption -
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I've reached the end of the line again. The only Australian coachbuilding company that I can discover that shares a name with a British company, who, as far as I can tell, wasn't a coachbuilder, is Dalgety & Co., and that really isn't two words. I guess that I will have to try again tomorrow.
Ooops I see that the puzzle has been solved while I was researching. Good work mekubb!
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I've reached the end of the line again. The only Australian coachbuilding company that I can discover that shares a name with a British company, who, as far as I can tell, wasn't a coachbuilder, is Dalgety & Co., and that really isn't two words. I guess that I will have to try again tomorrow.
Sorry 4popold it's now been solved but thanks for your contribution
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James Young was a guess to be honest, sometimes you're lucky :)