Solved - MJW #1066 - Bugatti Type 30 Coupe by Vannod Maugay 1925

woodinsight · December 27, 2012, 03:05:33 AM

The marque is obvious but I also need the model, year and coachbuilder for the point.....

4popoid · December 27, 2012, 11:52:35 PM

It looks like a Bugatti Type 40, of about 1929, with a Weymann fabric body.

woodinsight · December 28, 2012, 02:02:47 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on December 27, 2012, 11:52:35 PM
It looks like a Bugatti Type 40, of about 1929, with a Weymann fabric body.

It is of course a Bugatti but not a Type 40.
It isn't a Weymann body (although it may have been built under a Weymann licence) and the date is a handful of years out......

4popoid · December 28, 2012, 03:01:03 AM

Yes, I thought that '29 was too new, but I was influenced by some similar reference pictures of the Weymann body. Trying to sort out the Weymann licensees will be difficult, as there were many. Even though your picture shows a right hand drive, I'm hoping the coachbuilder isn't British, as there were three dozen licensees in the UK alone. Since I only know of one other licensee in France, so l'll go for: 1924 Bugatti Type 30 by Pourtout.

woodinsight · December 28, 2012, 04:56:16 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on December 28, 2012, 03:01:03 AM
Yes, I thought that '29 was too new, but I was influenced by some similar reference pictures of the Weymann body. Trying to sort out the Weymann licensees will be difficult, as there were many. Even though your picture shows a right hand drive, I'm hoping the coachbuilder isn't British, as there were three dozen licensees in the UK alone. Since I only know of one other licensee in France, so l'll go for: 1924 Bugatti Type 30 by Pourtout.

It is a Type 30 and you are slightly too old with the year.

I was only pointing out that it may have been by a Weymann licensee but I now think that's not the case.
It's not by Pourtout but the coachwork is French and by an obscure firm/individual...
I'll LOCK it for you to have another guess.....

woodinsight · December 28, 2012, 01:19:24 PM

As 4popold kindly pointed out to me he is now an Expert he is no longer entitled to guess Rookie puzzles.
Therefore this one is OPEN again for all Rookies.

FrontMan · December 31, 2012, 06:49:31 PM

...by de Viscaya?

woodinsight · January 04, 2013, 02:19:14 AM

Quote from: FrontMan on December 31, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
...by de Viscaya?

No and Vizcaya was a design patent holder - rather like Weymann....

woodinsight · January 05, 2013, 02:51:35 AM

Experts turn now....

4popoid · January 07, 2013, 08:26:08 PM

1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Kelsch?

woodinsight · January 08, 2013, 02:31:06 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 07, 2013, 08:26:08 PM
1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Kelsch?

Not by Kelsch but by an obscure coachbuilder

4popoid · January 08, 2013, 02:33:38 AM

1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Grummer?

woodinsight · January 08, 2013, 02:35:00 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 08, 2013, 02:33:38 AM
1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Grummer?

No - much more obscure

4popoid · January 08, 2013, 03:22:12 AM

Galle?

woodinsight · January 08, 2013, 03:45:21 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 08, 2013, 03:22:12 AM
Galle?

No - much more obscure!

4popoid · January 09, 2013, 02:24:10 AM

I apologize for not finding more obscure coachbuilders. The last three I have posted were totally unknown to me, and thus very obscure in my thinking. I'm sorry I'm such a novice with coachbuilders. Nevertheless, I keep looking for pictures of Bugattis with fabric bodies (most of which don't identify the coachbuilder), or, alternately, names of French body builders known to use fabric bodies. My next try will be: 1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Chavet.

woodinsight · January 09, 2013, 04:05:04 AM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 09, 2013, 02:24:10 AM
I apologize for not finding more obscure coachbuilders. The last three I have posted were totally unknown to me, and thus very obscure in my thinking. I'm sorry I'm such a novice with coachbuilders. Nevertheless, I keep looking for pictures of Bugattis with fabric bodies (most of which don't identify the coachbuilder), or, alternately, names of French body builders known to use fabric bodies. My next try will be: 1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Chavet.

No need to apologize........it's all part of the challenge here at AP.
Chavet is indeed relatively obscure but I'm afraid it's not by them.

The coachbuilder or individual who constructed this body was unknown to me shortly before I posted it.
Therefore it's not easy to find it unless you happen to find the exact source of the photo.

4popoid · January 09, 2013, 07:15:07 PM

How about 1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Berluteau?

woodinsight · January 10, 2013, 10:31:14 PM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 09, 2013, 07:15:07 PM
How about 1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Berluteau?

That's quite obscure but unfortunately it's not by them

4popoid · January 10, 2013, 11:56:32 PM

1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Duvivier?

woodinsight · January 11, 2013, 07:49:07 AM

Not by Duvivier....

4popoid · January 11, 2013, 12:56:48 PM

1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Buquoy?

woodinsight · January 11, 2013, 02:44:27 PM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 11, 2013, 12:56:48 PM
1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Buquoy?

That's one I don't know.........but it's not by them

Small clue it's two words....

4popoid · January 11, 2013, 03:21:04 PM

1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Visse & Haf?

woodinsight · January 11, 2013, 03:24:13 PM

Quote from: 4popoid on January 11, 2013, 03:21:04 PM
1925 Bugatti Type 30 by Visse & Haf?

I admire your persistence but sadly it's not by Visse & Haf

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