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Title: Solved - MJW #1078 - Métallurgique 26cv Tourer Colson 1923
Post by: woodinsight on January 03, 2013, 03:07:10 AM
This imposing tourer requires the identification of the make, model, year and coachbuilder for a point.
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: FrontMan on January 03, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Metallurgique, 1926, by VdP?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 04, 2013, 02:13:31 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on January 03, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Metallurgique, 1926, by VdP?
Métallurgique is correct but it is a few years older than 1926 and the coachbuilder isn't VdP....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 09, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: FrontMan on January 09, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
D'Iteren, 1923?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 09, 2013, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on January 09, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
D'Iteren, 1923?
Not d'Ieteren but the coachbuilder is Belgian
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 09, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
Vesters & Neirinck?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: thorax on January 10, 2013, 05:24:53 AM
Van den Plas Métallurgique 12/40 HP Saloon, 1924
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 10, 2013, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 09, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
Vesters & Neirinck?
Not by them....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 10, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: thorax on January 10, 2013, 05:24:53 AM
Van den Plas Métallurgique 12/40 HP Saloon, 1924
No it's not by Van den Plas and the model is not a 12/40hp and it's a tourer, not a saloon.
The year is slightly out also......
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 10, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Jonckheere?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 10, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 10, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Jonckheere?
That's all correct except the coachbuilder isn't Jonckheere....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 10, 2013, 10:43:59 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Moeremans?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 11, 2013, 07:43:32 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 10, 2013, 10:43:59 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Moeremans?
Not Moermans..
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 11, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Matthys?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 11, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 11, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Matthys?
No by them........

Small clue - the coachbuilder's name is 6 letters....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: targhediferro on January 12, 2013, 04:51:27 AM
Besset?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 13, 2013, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 12, 2013, 04:51:27 AM
Besset?
Not Besset
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 13, 2013, 05:37:38 PM
I've finally managed to find a Belgian coachbuilder with a six letter name (lots of fives and sevens, but no sixes).  I only have a name from a blog, with no other information, but I will give it a shot.  How about: 1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Blavie?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: targhediferro on January 13, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
Perhaps De Wolf?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 14, 2013, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 13, 2013, 05:37:38 PM
I've finally managed to find a Belgian coachbuilder with a six letter name (lots of fives and sevens, but no sixes).  I only have a name from a blog, with no other information, but I will give it a shot.  How about: 1923 Metallurgique 26 hp all weather tourer by Blavie?
Not Blavie.....
The coachbuilder is not obscure and also bodied other makes in the 1920s
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 14, 2013, 08:07:25 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 13, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
Perhaps De Wolf?
Not De Wolf....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: targhediferro on January 14, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
Renard?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 14, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 14, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
Renard?
Not Renard... :(
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 14, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Lefert?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 15, 2013, 05:31:46 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 14, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Lefert?
Not Lefert....and the search continues
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 15, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Phlups?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 15, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 15, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Phlups?
Not by them - you're in the wrong half of the alphabet!
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: 4popoid on January 15, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Well I don't think that this answer is correct, but I'm getting desperate, and it is Belgian, does have six letters and is in the first half of the alphabet.  I know this firm only started in the 70's, but it specializes in rebuilding classic and vintage cars.  So I'll try: Jolley.
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 16, 2013, 08:20:02 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 15, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Well I don't think that this answer is correct, but I'm getting desperate, and it is Belgian, does have six letters and is in the first half of the alphabet.  I know this firm only started in the 70's, but it specializes in rebuilding classic and vintage cars.  So I'll try: Jolley.
Not by Jolley I'm afraid....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 18, 2013, 11:52:19 AM
The Experts appear to have run out of ideas for this tourer, so I'm promoting it to the Pros for a quick solution.....
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 12:10:05 PM
Gybels?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: grobmotorix on January 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Does the coachbuilder come from the Liege region?
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
Métallurgique 26hp by Colson, 1923
Title: Re: MJW #1078
Post by: woodinsight on January 18, 2013, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
Métallurgique 26hp by Colson, 1923
That's correct!
Carrosserie V. & L. Colson (later J. Colson) was situated in Liège and also built cars on Minerva and Nagant chassis.
Another point for you PJ
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1078 - Métallurgique 26cv Tourer Colson 1923
Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Congrats PJ. 

Can you, or anyone else out there, give me an on-line reference for Colson (or for that matter Gybels)?  For all my work on this puzzle, I never ran across either name on-line (not once), and, even with the name(s), Googling turns up nothing (except a correct Gybels answer on a previous puzzle by woodinsight).

Thanks, in advance, to anyone with an informative link.   
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1078 - Métallurgique 26cv Tourer Colson 1923
Post by: woodinsight on January 19, 2013, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 18, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Congrats PJ. 

Can you, or anyone else out there, give me an on-line reference for Colson (or for that matter Gybels)?  For all my work on this puzzle, I never ran across either name on-line (not once), and, even with the name(s), Googling turns up nothing (except a correct Gybels answer on a previous puzzle by woodinsight).

Thanks, in advance, to anyone with an informative link.   
Sorry 4popold, my sources for Gybels and Colson came from my library. I don't know of any on-line source. I'm sure other members may be able to help.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1078 - Métallurgique 26cv Tourer Colson 1923
Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2013, 01:30:46 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1078 - Métallurgique 26cv Tourer Colson 1923
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2013, 03:04:47 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 18, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Congrats PJ. 

Can you, or anyone else out there, give me an on-line reference for Colson (or for that matter Gybels)?  For all my work on this puzzle, I never ran across either name on-line (not once), and, even with the name(s), Googling turns up nothing (except a correct Gybels answer on a previous puzzle by woodinsight).

Thanks, in advance, to anyone with an informative link.   
I found the same pic in a book about cars from Belgium and few lines about Colson on the Beaulieu Encyclopedia.