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Title: Solved - MJW #1095 - Minerva M-4 Cabriolet Graber 1934
Post by: woodinsight on January 19, 2013, 05:08:48 AM
Make, model, year and coachbuilder to be identified for the point
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 06:29:32 AM
Time for another Experts' top-up.....
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2013, 08:30:28 AM
German 6 cilinder?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2013, 08:30:28 AM
German 6 cilinder?
Not German....
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: nicanary on January 23, 2013, 11:15:11 AM
Lanchester 10hp?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 11:36:09 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 23, 2013, 11:15:11 AM
Lanchester 10hp?
Not a Lanchester....
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
Mathis of about 1933?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
Mathis of about 1933?
Not a Mathis and you are a year out with the date....
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2013, 11:58:09 AM
Italian with german coachbuilder?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2013, 11:58:09 AM
Italian with german coachbuilder?
No - not an Italian chassis and the coachbuilder is not German.
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
1934 French chassis with Swiss body?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 12:22:11 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
1934 French chassis with Swiss body?
1934 and Swiss body are correct but the chassis is not French
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 01:26:08 AM
1934 US chassis with body by Tuscher?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 01:26:08 AM
1934 US chassis with body by Tuscher?
Not a chassis from the USA and the body is not by Tuscher (it's not an obscure make if that helps)
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 04:27:35 AM
1934 British chassis with body by Worblaufen?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 05:01:31 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 04:27:35 AM
1934 British chassis with body by Worblaufen?
Not by Worblaufen....

If I can just sum up the chassis manufacturer nationality so far -

German
Italian
French
American (USA)
British
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: nicanary on January 24, 2013, 07:04:52 AM
Austrian base?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: Bill Murray on January 24, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
The car has some good ID points and I have settled on a 1934 Minerva M-4.

I am lost beyond that point and two hours of searching did not yield a coachbuilder.
If the chassis is correct, let the rest of the family play with the puzzle and I will keep looking as well.
Bill
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 24, 2013, 07:04:52 AM
Austrian base?
Not Austrian....
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Bill Murray on January 24, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
The car has some good ID points and I have settled on a 1934 Minerva M-4.

I am lost beyond that point and two hours of searching did not yield a coachbuilder.
If the chassis is correct, let the rest of the family play with the puzzle and I will keep looking as well.
Bill
Yes Bill, that's the car - a 1939 Minerva M-4 Cabriolet....
I'll LOCK it for you just until your next answer (within 24 hrs) to give you a chance to name the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: Bill Murray on January 24, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Hi Malcolm:

I am at a dead end, please unlock.
BTW, I am pretty certain the year is 1934, the last year real Minervas were made.

Imperia purchased the company around 1935/36 and I believe either assembled some cars from parts or rebadged their own cars as Minervas for export.
Bill
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
Quote from: Bill Murray on January 24, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Hi Malcolm:

I am at a dead end, please unlock.
BTW, I am pretty certain the year is 1934, the last year real Minervas were made.

Imperia purchased the company around 1935/36 and I believe either assembled some cars from parts or rebadged their own cars as Minervas for export.
Bill
Hi Bill, that was my typo - it should have read 1934!  :-[

OPEN again...
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
Hi guys,

I have three possibilities.  First let's try: 1934 Minerva M-4 by Gygax.

Spence 
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 24, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
Hi guys,

I have three possibilities.  First let's try: 1934 Minerva M-4 by Gygax.

Spence 
Not Gygax........
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
1934 Minerva M-4 by Gangloff?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 25, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
1934 Minerva M-4 by Gangloff?
Not Gangloff......
LOCKED for you to present your third possibility
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 25, 2013, 01:52:25 PM
Thanks for the lock.  This try is more of a reach, but I will give it a shot.  1934 Minerva M-4 by Ruckstuhl?
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 25, 2013, 02:24:15 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 25, 2013, 01:52:25 PM
Thanks for the lock.  This try is more of a reach, but I will give it a shot.  1934 Minerva M-4 by Ruckstuhl?
Not Ruckstuhl......
You were in the right alphabetical area before and it's a well-known coachbuilder....
Still locked for you for one more try.
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: 4popoid on January 25, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Thanks Malcolm.  I was using a reference for Swiss builders specifically mentioning Minerva.  The big, best known, Swiss builder isn't one of those, but does fall into the correct alphabetical area, so I'll give that a try.  1934 Minerva M-4 by Graber? 
Title: Re: MJW #1095
Post by: woodinsight on January 25, 2013, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 25, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Thanks Malcolm.  I was using a reference for Swiss builders specifically mentioning Minerva.  The big, best known, Swiss builder isn't one of those, but does fall into the correct alphabetical area, so I'll give that a try.  1934 Minerva M-4 by Graber? 
Yes, that's it!
Another point for you.....