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Title: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 1000
Post by: woodinsight on March 30, 2013, 03:12:14 AM: What was the name of this small racing car and what engine and size was fitted?
One point for the correct answer.
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: woodinsight on April 04, 2013, 02:09:49 PM: Moving up (literally!)
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: nicanary on April 05, 2013, 07:38:34 AM: Quite extraordinary. I'm baffled. Like many puzzlers I went straight to "a certain site" without success, before the glaringly obvious came to my attention.

This really is a "bitsa" - I reckon an old 50s F3 chassis that has been modernised in the 60s to keep up with later technology. Rear suspension is very confusing - the engine could well be a 1000cc or 1100cc JAP.

I take it this is British ?
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: shamrock on April 05, 2013, 09:05:58 AM: a kieft
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: woodinsight on April 05, 2013, 09:54:12 AM: It's not a Kieft and this car doesn't appear on "that site" either......
The engine is a JAP but not as large as 1000.

The confusing thing is that a car of the same name is featured on the "500 site" but with a Norton engine.
This one is British and seems to have been built as a hillclimb car.

The name is xxxxx JAP x00 Special and that's all the information I have at the moment (I'll try to find out more in the meantime)
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: nicanary on April 05, 2013, 10:01:45 AM: Petty-JAP, 900cc ?

The Petty on "that site" has twin-wishbone rear supension like the puzzle car, which must have been pretty adavnced for F3 in the 50s. In fact, they look fairly similar, and possibly a hillclimb specialist has doctored the original car after its usefulness on the circuits was over.

(I realised I was wasting my time on "that site" when I eventually spotted two exhaust pipes, which precluded the obvious engine size)
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: woodinsight on April 05, 2013, 10:09:33 AM: Quote from: nicanary on April 05, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
Petty-JAP, 900cc ?

The Petty on "that site" has twin-wishbone rear supension like the puzzle car, which must have been pretty adavnced for F3 in the 50s. In fact, they look fairly similar, and possibly a hillclimb specialist has doctored the original car after its usefulness on the circuits was over.

(I realised I was wasting my time on "that site" when I eventually spotted two exhaust pipes, which precluded the obvious engine size)
Yes, it's the Petty-JAP but the engine size is much smaller than 900cc.
LOCKED for you to correct this.

Here's the original photo -
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: woodinsight on April 05, 2013, 10:11:34 AM: I just realised I've given you the answer! :D

No worries - the point is yours.....
Title: Re: MJW #1173
Post by: nicanary on April 05, 2013, 10:17:45 AM: Quote from: woodinsight on April 05, 2013, 10:11:34 AM
I just realised I've given you the answer! :D

No worries - the point is yours.....

Easiest point of the day! I was staying away from the obvious 500cc because of the twin exhausts. Still don't understand that.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
Post by: HiRich on April 14, 2013, 12:49:01 PM: The image is from Prescott in the early 1960s, though I don't have an exact date. The car has been modified by the White brothers (one of whom is driving) to fit a JAP 1,000 Twin - hence the distinctive heads and twin pipes.

The car survives, now reverted to Norton 500 spec.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
Post by: Allan L on April 14, 2013, 01:28:45 PM: Yes here's Dave Lecoq in it:
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6055/5913487280_fdd292c603_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
Post by: woodinsight on April 17, 2013, 12:05:38 PM: I've modified the title to the correct engine capacity at the time.
Thanks folks for the extra information and photo.