Solved: Wendax 1069 - Gräf & Stift TS - U10

Wendax · November 14, 2013, 02:12:11 AM

You like those old buses, don't you?

For one point, please respond and identify this bus.

Wendax · November 21, 2013, 02:20:32 AM

up

Hiawatha · November 21, 2013, 03:18:29 AM

Graf & Stift connection?

Wendax · November 21, 2013, 03:49:34 AM

Yes, it is a Gräf & Stift.

Locked for you to find the model.

Hiawatha · November 21, 2013, 04:32:55 AM

I'll try 120, if wrong unlock as I can't find much on Graf&Stift

Wendax · November 21, 2013, 04:34:51 AM

Not 120.

Unlocked and open for all experts again.

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 02:37:09 AM

up again

Paul Jaray · November 28, 2013, 03:21:12 AM

TS200from 1959?

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 03:53:01 AM

Not that one, and earlier

pguillem · November 28, 2013, 12:22:16 PM

A similar bus used by the Wiener Linien. TSZT series ?

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 12:31:55 PM

It was used by Wiener Linien (or WVB which is the same company), well found. I just had a caption for this bus picture as Gräf & Stift WVB which I took accidentily as the model designation. But further research unearthed a type name, a combination of a letter and a two-digit number which seems most likely to be correct.

Locked for you to have a try.

pguillem · November 28, 2013, 12:54:33 PM

Oh oh ! I have a list of Wiener Linien types named bustypseit1946 and none of the Gräfs bears a combination of a letter and a two-digit number. How come ?

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 01:23:56 PM

Well, you probably have better sources than I have. I was looking for U10, but that can be wrong. Perhaps you can identify this bus in your list when looking at the two unmodified pictures I have.

Hiawatha · November 28, 2013, 01:37:07 PM

I found a similar bus with the designation 5G U 10, but it's obviously younger than yours (1959).Also the one in your puzzle looks more interurban than urban.

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 01:50:05 PM

Yes, "my" bus seems to be a special one. On the lower picture the destination sign says Sonderwagen, meaning special car.

pguillem · November 28, 2013, 02:28:02 PM

Quote from: Hiawatha on November 28, 2013, 01:37:07 PM
I found a similar bus with the designation 5G U 10, but it's obviously younger than yours (1959).Also the one in your puzzle looks more interurban than urban.

The 5G U 10 TS was in service with Wiener Linien from 1959 'til 1979, Betriebsnummer 8591 - 8599 (Bustypen der Wiener Linien seit 1946). It should be this one.

Hiawatha · November 28, 2013, 02:36:18 PM

That's the one..

Wendax · November 28, 2013, 02:52:21 PM

The puzzle bus is supposed to be from 1953 (and it looks older than 1959).

I have this one as a U10:

Wendax · November 29, 2013, 03:09:45 AM

Looking at that list I think it should be a TS - U10 (or a TSZT-4GW?).

I'll give one point each to Hiawatha and pguillem, and called this puzzle solved.

Hiawatha · November 29, 2013, 05:04:51 AM

Maybe not totally deserved, but thank you all the same..

Wendax · December 17, 2013, 02:07:01 PM

Some more pics:

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Solved: Wendax 1069 - Gräf & Stift TS - U10