Whatisthiscar#21 Solved - La Gazelle 1912

neilshouse · January 15, 2013, 07:52:23 AM

Quote from: grobmotorix on January 14, 2013, 12:47:59 PM
Oh, wow, a very special kind of friction drive indeed...

Indeed! 2 propshafts! I don't know for sure but I imagine the crownwheel had teeth on either side. It looks as if it had 7 'gears' for forward and reverse.

targhediferro · January 28, 2013, 05:16:11 PM

I found few news about a car, built in Berlin-Wilmersdorf by Ing.Bischoff & M.Althoven, that's described as a cyclecar with Steudel engine and a "strange friction trasmission"; it was named Hagea-Moto, about 1922.
Is perhaps our car?

neilshouse · January 29, 2013, 02:44:06 AM

Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
I found few news about a car, built in Berlin-Wilmersdorf by Ing.Bischoff & M.Althoven, that's described as a cyclecar with Steudel engine and a "strange friction trasmission"; it was named Hagea-Moto, about 1922.
Is perhaps our car?

No, it's not our car. It is French.

The designer and builder of this car was also involved in the design of at least one aircraft.

targhediferro · January 29, 2013, 03:14:54 PM

Is it perhaps the Kiddy, 1921, built by Atelier Lecourbe, Paris?

woodinsight · January 30, 2013, 12:07:44 AM

or maybe a Carteret?

neilshouse · January 30, 2013, 03:08:42 AM

It's neither a Kiddy or Cateret.

Craig Gillingham · March 12, 2013, 08:12:51 PM

Was this a production car, or a one of?

neilshouse · March 13, 2013, 02:12:16 PM

Quote from: Craig Gillingham on March 12, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
Was this a production car, or a one of?

At least one was made, we have a photo. The photo comes from a brochure so a production run was envisaged but I have yet to find evidence of any others.

The designer/builder/owner is pictured at the wheel.

kwgibbs · March 25, 2013, 10:16:51 AM

Was it Bleriot Aeronautique?,by the way ,are those the headlights by the windsheild?

neilshouse · March 26, 2013, 04:23:13 AM

Not Bleriot.

I have no idea what the two protuberances are on the scuttle.

RayTheRat · March 31, 2013, 07:38:32 PM

Wild guess: Talbot-Darracq?

neilshouse · April 01, 2013, 04:41:05 AM

Not Talbot-Darracq, sorry.

Wendax · July 24, 2013, 05:39:48 AM

This is "La Gazelle", built in 1912 by Monsieur Octave Poignard from Brinon-sur-Sauldre.

Wendax · July 24, 2013, 05:43:04 AM

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Wendax · July 24, 2013, 05:44:55 AM

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Wendax · July 24, 2013, 05:50:12 AM

He also built a biplane:

neilshouse · July 24, 2013, 06:18:23 AM

Fantastic Wendax! It is indeed 'La Gazelle' built by Octave Poignard.
I wonder if production exceeded one unit?

Wendax · September 19, 2017, 02:50:57 AM

Some more brochure details:

News:

Whatisthiscar#21 Solved - La Gazelle 1912

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