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Title: Solved - NEH 2525: SCG Urbansport idea - 1960
Post by: Carnut on March 06, 2013, 08:00:28 AM
What's this, from when, what was to be its power source and who was responsible for it, for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on March 13, 2013, 07:30:42 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Iluvatar on March 13, 2013, 08:41:12 AM
design by Tom Tjaarda?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on March 13, 2013, 08:46:01 AM
design by Tom Tjaarda?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2013, 06:07:00 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2013, 07:57:35 AM
Planned to be based on a Hillman Imp?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
Planned to be based on a Hillman Imp?

That's what I thought when I saw its wheels, but actually no!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2013, 10:01:06 AM
Mini-based in that case?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2013, 10:17:08 AM
Mini-based in that case?

That was indeed the intention, yes!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on June 15, 2013, 03:10:43 PM
British?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on June 15, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
British?

No..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: targhediferro on June 18, 2013, 01:43:32 AM
Perhaps a Michelotti design?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on June 18, 2013, 04:38:18 AM
Perhaps a Michelotti design?

No, don't think any Italian designers were involved.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on June 25, 2013, 06:05:44 AM
Picture of the roofed version, if any help!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on June 25, 2013, 07:36:44 AM
American?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on June 25, 2013, 07:39:51 AM
American?

Ah, so maybe it did help!
American it is..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2013, 07:34:07 AM
BH-bound?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 28, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
The wheels appear to look like Ford units. Is this some sort of offshoot of the Cardinal / Mustang I program? 
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2013, 10:52:57 AM
The wheels appear to look like Ford units. Is this some sort of offshoot of the Cardinal / Mustang I program?

No, it's much smaller than that.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: hermanoto on August 28, 2013, 11:39:02 AM
any linkage with Nash Metropolitan?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
any linkage with Nash Metropolitan?

None.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 28, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
A swoopier concept from King Midget folks?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2013, 02:00:25 PM
A swoopier concept from King Midget folks?

Nothing to do with King Midget..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: 4popoid on August 28, 2013, 02:33:40 PM
Perhaps related to the proposed electric powered Corvair (Electrovair)?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 28, 2013, 05:00:14 PM
Nobody has asked "is it based on a Crosley?", so I'll throw that into the mix  :)
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2013, 06:46:32 PM
It's petrol-powered not electric, has nothing to do with any Corvair and it's not based on a Crosley.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: 4popoid on August 29, 2013, 02:37:35 AM
Proposal drawing by, or for, one of the "Big 3" US automakers?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: hermanoto on August 29, 2013, 03:06:24 AM
is it a design by Trevor Fiore
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 29, 2013, 03:33:28 AM
A Bob Gurr sketch?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 29, 2013, 04:31:40 AM
Proposal drawing by, or for, one of the "Big 3" US automakers?

No..

is it a design by Trevor Fiore

..no.. 

A Bob Gurr sketch?

..I don't have an actual name of the person who did the sketch, but I suspect not him.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: nicanary on August 29, 2013, 06:43:19 AM
I think it's time to refer some of the puzzlers to Carnut's earlier post - it was intended to be Mini-powered. Some of the questions have diverged somewhat from this path...

Was it anything to do with the BMC importers ?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 29, 2013, 08:30:33 AM
I think it's time to refer some of the puzzlers to Carnut's earlier post - it was intended to be Mini-powered. Some of the questions have diverged somewhat from this path...

Was it anything to do with the BMC importers ?

I thought I'd said that too but I didn't look back either..!

No, nothing to do with the importers.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 30, 2013, 06:00:01 AM
It looks a bit like an Almquist Thunderbolt - any relation?

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Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 30, 2013, 07:34:27 AM
It looks a bit like an Almquist Thunderbolt - any relation?

Not at all, no.  Its intention being Mini-based it's much smaller than that I think.
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 30, 2013, 08:00:30 AM
Almquist made a lot of different cars - I wasn't suggesting it was that specific model.

Was the puzzle drawing by Bruce Meyers?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 30, 2013, 09:03:40 AM

A Bob Gurr sketch?

..I don't have an actual name of the person who did the sketch, but I suspect not him.
Almquist made a lot of different cars - I wasn't suggesting it was that specific model.

Was the puzzle drawing by Bruce Meyers?

See above.  Nothing has changed - I still don't know an actual name!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 31, 2013, 04:17:58 AM
OK - let me re-phrase - was it to built by B. F. Meyers & Co., as a kit to use with Mini mechanical bits?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: nicanary on August 31, 2013, 06:29:35 AM
Was the company already in business making Kit-cars for other chassis ?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on August 31, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
OK - let me re-phrase - was it to built by B. F. Meyers & Co., as a kit to use with Mini mechanical bits?

No..

Was the company already in business making Kit-cars for other chassis ?

..no existing car company was involved.  This is only a conceptual proposal.

I think it only fair to say now that I'm almost certain you won't find the answer on the 'net; you need to go through your supply of old US car magazines..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: nicanary on August 31, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
OK - let me re-phrase - was it to built by B. F. Meyers & Co., as a kit to use with Mini mechanical bits?

No..

Was the company already in business making Kit-cars for other chassis ?

..no existing car company was involved.  This is only a conceptual proposal.

I think it only fair to say now that I'm almost certain you won't find the answer on the 'net; you need to go through your supply of old US car magazines..

That won't take long. Nada.  :'(
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 19, 2013, 02:47:13 AM
As this isn't the product of an actual car company, was it a magazine project?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 19, 2013, 06:23:28 AM
As this isn't the product of an actual car company, was it a magazine project?

Crikey, I thought this one was in the Black Hole!

Although the idea was to base it on a real car (a Mini), it was indeed a purely theoretical magazine project!
A product of someone's imagination...
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 21, 2013, 06:50:44 PM
Hmmm, as I know from a few of my own puzzles (some still unresolved), and others (such as the recent Road and Track Le Mans Coupe from 1960) in the early 1960s imaginary magazine car projects seemed to be popular with both the editors and their readers. 

Is this one a 'dream car' by Sports Car Illustrated as it has their 'look' about it?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 22, 2013, 04:14:11 AM
Hmmm, as I know from a few of my own puzzles (some still unresolved), and others (such as the recent Road and Track Le Mans Coupe from 1960) in the early 1960s imaginary magazine car projects seemed to be popular with both the editors and their readers. 

Is this one a 'dream car' by Sports Car Illustrated as it has their 'look' about it?

Right track, wrong mag (though you have got two words of its title right, which earns a lock!)...
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 22, 2013, 09:33:06 AM
Thanks for the lock.  Sports Car Catalog?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 22, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Thanks for the lock.  Sports Car Catalog?

No!  You'll have to gen up on your period American car mags!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 22, 2013, 12:43:55 PM
Sports Car Guide?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 22, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
Sports Car Guide?

Aha - progress!
Yes, it's a project published in the Sports Car Guide.
Now all we need to know is its name, though establishing when might help with that - maybe!
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 22, 2013, 01:40:12 PM
Sixties Spider?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 22, 2013, 07:24:44 PM
Sixties Spider?

That's not it's name, or anything like it, though it does date from the Sixties..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 25, 2013, 08:26:37 AM
Does the name relate to its Mini base?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 25, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
Does the name relate to its Mini base?

Not at all, but you could say it's sort of city-car related, for an enthusiastic driver!
And I'll lock this for you for 24 hours to avoid someone nipping in with an answer based on your question...
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 25, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
Thanks for the Lock Carnut.  I have some old Sports Car Catalogs at home from the early 1960s, but I'm struggling to find this project, although I know I have seen it before, many years ago!  So, it this stge, it's pure guess work.  How about the Runabout Roadster?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 25, 2013, 04:36:57 PM
Thanks for the Lock Carnut.  I have some old Sports Car Catalogs at home from the early 1960s, but I'm struggling to find this project, although I know I have seen it before, many years ago!  So, it this stge, it's pure guess work.  How about the Runabout Roadster?

You could work on Renault's naming committee!

No, think about the 'city' bit of 'city car' and what type of car enthusiasts like to drive..
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on November 25, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
City Racer?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on November 25, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
City Racer?

Not that.  How would describe a city area?  At least the 2nd word has the right number of letters (although I think I recall both words are joined into one).
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Djetset on December 21, 2013, 01:15:28 PM
Ah ha, I think I've found it!  So, is it the Urban Sport?
Title: Re: NEH 2525
Post by: Carnut on December 21, 2013, 02:35:09 PM
Ah ha, I think I've found it!  So, is it the Urban Sport?

Great sleuthing Djetset!
Once you got the fact it was in the Sports Car Guide it was just a matter of finding which one as the name was featured on the front cover of the March 1960 issue!

Well done and point awarded.  Nice to clear up this geriatric puzzle at last!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2525: SCG Urbansport idea - 1960
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 28, 2013, 06:27:28 AM
Since the article was by by one Robert ("Bob") Cumberford, I expect he designed it, as well.

Cumberford was a rabid auto enthusiast from a youndg age. As a teen, he helped build the 1949 Jaguar Parkinson Special ( http://bit.ly/Jz1Ljb ), and of course later was the driving force behind the Cumberford Martinique ( http://bit.ly/1eL2cpk ). He spent years working at GM as a designer, has written for auto magazines for decades, and is on the masthead at Automobile Magazine. Occasionally, he submits articles to AutoPuzzles under his nom de plume Crowbar Rumbleford.