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Title: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
Post by: Carnut on December 09, 2013, 07:23:38 AM: What's this, what was it commonly known as and from when does it date - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 20, 2013, 05:08:07 AM: Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: frederick59 on December 20, 2013, 06:58:34 AM: Triumph base?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 20, 2013, 07:02:52 AM: Quote from: frederick59 on December 20, 2013, 06:58:34 AM
Triumph base?

No..
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: mekubb on December 20, 2013, 07:23:08 AM: From USA ?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 20, 2013, 07:56:48 AM: Quote from: mekubb on December 20, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
From USA ?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: D-type on December 20, 2013, 03:44:58 PM: Saab Sonnet?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 20, 2013, 07:18:12 PM: Quote from: D-type on December 20, 2013, 03:44:58 PM
Saab Sonnet?

No, it's not a Saab.
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: mekubb on December 22, 2013, 04:56:13 PM: British ?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 22, 2013, 06:38:46 PM: Quote from: mekubb on December 22, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
British ?

No
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: pftnbr on December 23, 2013, 01:32:27 PM: Soviet?
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 23, 2013, 02:16:43 PM: Quote from: pftnbr on December 23, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
Soviet?

Yes!
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: pftnbr on December 23, 2013, 06:23:33 PM: Unfortunately, I've lost my source. That's all I remember, hope that helps someone!
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: D-type on December 26, 2013, 07:05:20 AM: Anatoly Zaydelov from Leningrad in his self-built sportscar with Moskvich 407 engine racing in 1962. The car is earlier than that as it also raced in 1961
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 28, 2013, 09:03:40 AM: Quote from: D-type on December 26, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
Anatoly Zaydelov from Leningrad in his self-built sportscar with Moskvich 407 engine racing in 1962. The car is earlier than that as it also raced in 1961

The Leningrad and 1961 bits tie in with what I have but not the rest of it.
I'll lock this for you to dig into and see if you can come with the info I have, which I hope is right...!
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: D-type on December 28, 2013, 10:00:59 AM: My souce is Alexey Rogachev who is an expert on Soviet racing and host of a Russian-language website on the subject. I have no reason to doubt what he wrote.

PM sent.
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: faksta on December 29, 2013, 02:46:35 AM: D-Type is right, to be fair.

(Sorry for jumping in)
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: Carnut on December 29, 2013, 07:18:25 AM: Quote from: faksta on December 29, 2013, 02:46:35 AM
D-Type is right, to be fair.

(Sorry for jumping in)

Yes, he has PM'd me the proof I needed and I've already said by PM I'll move this one tomorrow and give him his point. Just a couple of details I want to check on my other computer first!
Title: Re: NEH 3154
Post by: faksta on December 29, 2013, 03:50:21 PM: Oh, OK then :)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
Post by: faksta on December 30, 2013, 06:47:46 AM: Carnut, out of interest, what was the confusing pert? :)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
Post by: Carnut on December 30, 2013, 07:04:37 AM: Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
Carnut, out of interest, what was the confusing pert? :)

Well, I had it as the ZIL-112S 'Golubaya Raketa' ('Blue Rocket') shown on its first outing in Leningrad 1961.
There was a picture of it in blue to back up the contention, though in the thread D-Type sent me it quoted that the car had appeared in white and in red but never in blue.. The picture is shown below.
Reading the thread D-Type sent me however it seems clear that the Golubaya Raketa was much earlier and this car is as solved by D-Type. Google for ZIL-112S Golubaya Raketa however and you will get pictures showing this car..
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
Post by: faksta on December 30, 2013, 08:14:21 AM: Uh..yes, this is the same car on the picture, Zaydelov's Moskvich special.
What is more, I have never heard ZIL 112S to be referred to as 'Blue Rocket' apart from in seemingly the same source as yours :P