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Title: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham / Chingkanshan - 1959
Post by: Carnut on May 17, 2010, 12:16:14 PM
Tell me what this is and you'll be rewarded with 1 point:
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: pnegyesi on May 17, 2010, 03:02:35 PM
I bet this won't make it to the professionals.
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: Carnut on May 17, 2010, 06:27:31 PM
I bet this won't make it to the professionals.

Few of mine do.
There are suddently some very knowledgeable Rookies and a few Experts who know so much I'm surprised anything gets through...!
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: milos62 on May 20, 2010, 04:00:51 AM
Jinggansham , 1958 - Peking, China
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: pnegyesi on May 20, 2010, 05:16:01 AM
Oh well........
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: Allemano on May 20, 2010, 05:23:42 AM
He looks like 毛澤東 (second from the left)
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: pnegyesi on May 20, 2010, 05:51:58 AM
Quite so
Title: Re: NEH 547
Post by: Carnut on May 20, 2010, 08:05:37 AM
Jinggansham , 1958 - Peking, China

Very good!
Believe it used a VW Beetle engine.

Bad luck Pal!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham - 1959
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 20, 2010, 08:44:38 AM
Apparently, it could be translitered as Chingkanshan as well.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham - 1959
Post by: Carnut on May 20, 2010, 10:50:12 AM
Apparently, it could be translitered as Chingkanshan as well.

Apparently so, yes, no doubt amongst a host of other ways of spelling it!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham - 1959
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 20, 2010, 10:52:18 AM
Just making sure that we won't get a repost ;)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham / Chingkanshan - 1959
Post by: barrett on September 01, 2010, 02:46:44 PM
I found another nice picture of this one. apparantly it exists today in a museum, anyone have a current picture?
oh, and It seems another spelling is JingganshaN!
Title: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: grobmotorix on June 07, 2013, 03:03:56 PM
Who knows this car?
Title: Re: grob 2013.06.07 (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 08:43:58 AM
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Title: Re: grob 2013.06.07 (04)
Post by: cmetisse on August 16, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
Jingangshan Sedan, 1958 chinese "people's car". I'm not sure of the way we should write its name, though !  ;D

It seems it used a rear engined 4-cylinder 1,200 cc, probably borrowed from a VW Beetle, as it seems. The production was made by BAW, aka Beijing Auto Works, with less than 100 cars made.
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 09:22:27 AM
Yes!!

My german source has called it:
Tsinganschan
36HP
110km/h
750kg
built in 1959 in china.
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: Wendax on August 16, 2013, 09:27:01 AM
Another transcription is offered by Roger Gloor: Chingkanshan
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
Yes, itīs a hell of a problem to follow the roots of vintage chinese cars...

Hereīs a translation of an indian site explaining some details of this car:
Quote
April 1958 is the initial milestone China apply the concept cars of the people. Is the designation of the Beijing Government to Beijing First Auto Accesoy Car Factory to develop a small sedan to replace the role of a rickshaw in Beijing.

June 1958 the first people's car the Jingangshan, copying the rear engined VW Beetle 1.2 liters was launched. For political reasons this model produced only 100 units.
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: cmetisse on August 16, 2013, 09:37:06 AM
I agree ! In fact, it is always a headache to tell what's what in the Chinese car industry.

Of course, it was less messy in the beginning, with scarce brands and models. It seems it was the same factory that produced later the more "famous" jeep BJ 212.
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: Carnut on August 16, 2013, 10:42:16 AM
Actually we've had this one before so it's a re-post.
It won't be easy to find the original to merge them though...
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 11:27:28 AM
Uhm, O.K. - didnīt know that, really.
Thank you for the hint.

Here it is:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12568.msg105195#msg105195
Title: Re: BAW Jingangshan / Tsinganschan / Chingkangshan Sedan, 1958/59, China
Post by: Carnut on August 16, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
Uhm, O.K. - didnīt know that, really.
Thank you for the hint.

Here it is:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12568.msg105195#msg105195

You did well to find that one!
So there are another 2 spellings..
Seems there are no hard and fast rules to convert Chinese hieroglyphics into Latin script so there will be any number of spellings..

Anyway, it's merged now.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham / Chingkanshan - 1959
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 11:40:25 AM
O.K., thank you!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham / Chingkanshan - 1959
Post by: D-type on August 16, 2013, 06:15:02 PM
When I was in Kaohsiung, Taiwan the main street which naturally was named after Chiang Kai-Shek was spelt four different ways at different points!
According to Wikipedia, the standard transliteration method in China is the [Hanyu] Pinyin system and the next most common is the Wade-Giles method.  And there are several more. 
According to Georgano, the Pinyin name of this car is Jinggangshan and the Wade-Giles name is Chingkangshan.  I'm not sure what systems the other spellings are from.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 547: Jinggansham / Chingkanshan - 1959
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Interesting! Thank you.