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Title: Solved -PJ476- Stoll Volkswagen 1966
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 03, 2012, 12:57:03 PM
Identify this car for 1 point.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: kwgibbs on December 03, 2012, 01:33:22 PM
is it a ,mashup between vw and some other car ?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 04, 2012, 03:41:34 AM
Despite its appearance, it's not.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2012, 12:50:26 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: frederick59 on December 14, 2012, 03:04:25 PM
surely there is a Beetle base there?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: D-type on December 14, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 04, 2012, 03:41:34 AM
Despite its appearance, it's not.
Well, if there's no VW in there it must be the prototype of General Motors' answer to the VW - a prototype Chevrolet Corvair (heavily disguised)
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: RayTheRat on December 14, 2012, 06:39:04 PM
Front-engined WV "kustom"?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 15, 2012, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on December 14, 2012, 03:04:25 PM
surely there is a Beetle base there?
Yes, that's a regular VW with a 'restyled' front.
Quote from: D-type on December 14, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 04, 2012, 03:41:34 AM
Despite its appearance, it's not.
Well, if there's no VW in there it must be the prototype of General Motors' answer to the VW - a prototype Chevrolet Corvair (heavily disguised)
Not a prototype of any sort.
I meant it was not a mashup between a VW and any other car....even if the builder was inspired by a specific car.
Quote from: RayTheRat on December 14, 2012, 06:39:04 PM
Front-engined WV "kustom"?

Nope...just a different front end.

This was not a creation of a Mr Unknown from Nowhere...it's a name you pobably know and already featured here.

Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: richard cuyler on December 22, 2012, 04:22:38 PM
So outlandish it looks like a Spohn creation.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 22, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
Not Spohn...less prolific.
There is a reason why He adopted that front end...but it won't help in solving it, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 26, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
Pros?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: mymokke on December 27, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
I've seen some weird body work to enclose a wood/gas conversion, is it possible this is what we have here?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
Nope. The front end was the only modifiaction on the car.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Zerk on December 30, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
Nope. The front end was the only modifiaction on the car.

Then was the modification to increase the size/dimensions of the luggage compartment for a specific purpose? Was the owner a harpist, or bass player?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: mekubb on December 31, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
Or to create space for his mother-in-law when going on vacation ?  ;D

Does the different front end has to do with his job ?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2013, 05:44:55 AM
Quote from: Zerk on December 30, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
Nope. The front end was the only modifiaction on the car.

Then was the modification to increase the size/dimensions of the luggage compartment for a specific purpose? Was the owner a harpist, or bass player?
Yes, for a specific purpose but not that specific...a more general and universal purpose, the same He saw in another production car.
Quote from: mekubb on December 31, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
Or to create space for his mother-in-law when going on vacation ?  ;D
Does the different front end has to do with his job ?
Nope, He was a coachbuilder.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: targhediferro on January 02, 2013, 05:49:00 AM
Does the bonnet contain a bath-tube?
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2013, 05:53:31 AM
I don't know if this would help to id the coachbuilder (that is not obscure) but it's nothing so original or complicated.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 05:12:27 AM
Last call before I move it...
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: mekubb on January 04, 2013, 07:44:55 AM
Any Colani involvement ?
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Post by: Carnut on January 04, 2013, 08:35:59 AM
Here's its successor:

Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: mekubb on January 04, 2013, 07:44:55 AM
Any Colani involvement ?
Not at all.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 26, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
Pros?
;)
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2013, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
Nope. The front end was the only modifiaction on the car.
Are you sure? It looks to me as if the pavilion was shortened to have a coupe appearance like the Stoll coupe: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17989.0
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
You are right and not only because it is indeed like the Stoll coupe, but for another reason:
it is by Stoll and that's was the name I was looking for.
Any idea of the reason of this ugly front?
Point is yours but anyone can have a go on that.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
Any idea of the reason of this ugly front?
I just had a look at a Motor Klassik article about the car. They show the puzzle picture, but they don't tell why the front was altered. I guess that Bernhard Riepenhausen (that's the man who commissioned this car) wanted more modern looks in combination with an enlarged trunk. He even had a foldable rear seat installed, years before Volkswagen offered that.
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
This car was featured in another magazine where it's revealed why and where it took the idea...
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: pguillem on January 04, 2013, 02:59:24 PM
This rare photograph was taken in the 1970s and shows the ugly front end that was
hand-built by Willi Stoll in 1966. The conversion was made to house two extra spare wheels

Oops ! I thought that it was for the BBQ...
Title: Re: PJ - 476
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2013, 04:01:58 PM
...and He (Bernhard Riepenhausen) got the idea after spotting an American Willy's Coupe.
Point for Wendax!