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Title: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 14, 2013, 04:53:17 PM
1 point for you!
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: dzima1985 on April 15, 2013, 10:44:29 AM
European?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 11:03:36 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: dzima1985 on April 15, 2013, 11:08:18 AM
South America?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 11:55:14 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Allemano on April 15, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
Japan?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 12:15:42 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Allemano on April 15, 2013, 12:18:18 PM
Aussie?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Wendax on April 15, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
North American?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Djetset on April 15, 2013, 12:58:43 PM
Related to a Consulier GTP in some way?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
Aussie?
Nope.
North American?
Nope.
Related to a Consulier GTP in some way?
I don't think.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Djetset on April 15, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
A GTD (from Poole, Dorset, England) prototype?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
Not European.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: sixtee5cuda on April 15, 2013, 01:58:41 PM
From Africa?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 02:24:19 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: dzima1985 on April 15, 2013, 02:28:32 PM
South African?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 18, 2013, 08:12:25 PM
 Kit car. The molds were purchased in Florida, then sold, by kitcarguy.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 18, 2013, 08:16:29 PM
 :)
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 18, 2013, 08:24:16 PM
.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 18, 2013, 08:25:04 PM
..
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 19, 2013, 12:26:14 AM
May be known as: Custom Tracker CT GT50, from Kenilworth/Blackheath, South Africa.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2013, 03:45:31 AM
That is very, very interesting.
I think 'kitcarguy' was not a serious guess and in any case...it's not the name I have!
It is not Custom Tracker CT GT50 and it does not came from Kenilworth/Blackheat.
I think you are into something as your car is basically the same.
Locked for you till your next guess.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 19, 2013, 05:12:37 AM
Ok Paul, here is what I have learned. I believe this car was originally made here in the USA. It may have then been purchased by someone from South Africa & put together. My sources: Madmechanics/Slipondajimmy or simply google these 2 words: kitcarguy molds.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2013, 05:40:27 AM
According to my source there was\is (?) a Company founded by 3 men (one is not an obscure one).
I have a small article about this car were is reported the name of the company, the place, the names of these 3 men and some details about the car (body, engine, brakes, suspensions, interior, etc...).
I don't know about an USA connection.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 19, 2013, 06:19:11 AM
Ok Paul, looking more closely at the licence plate area...it seems to be shaped for a South African type licence plate. So it must have come to the USA, where it became neglected & a mysterion. Using google from South Africa, I have been unable to find the car.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2013, 10:18:42 AM
OK, open to all!
I saw that someone sold the molds in 2007 to 'kitcarguy' (or he was the person who sold them to 'Slipondajimmy').
In any case it won't help you much: "As some of you might know I recently purchased a set of molds to build a car. Well the person I purchased them from also has a completed body with a tube chassis. The origins of the car are not completely known."
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
The name used for the company is not that original, there are at least 3 more companies with that name and at least 16 models of other makers. Searching for that name on AP gives 2 pages of results.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 23, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
May I please have the 1st letter of the company's name ???
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: dzima1985 on April 24, 2013, 01:11:22 AM
I will to guess: Mirage?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 24, 2013, 03:59:02 AM
May I please have the 1st letter of the company's name ???
The most prolific one: 'S'
I will to guess: Mirage?
Not Mirage.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 24, 2013, 06:44:13 AM
Sebring?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 24, 2013, 06:59:26 AM
Not Sebring.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Wendax on April 24, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Scorpion?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 24, 2013, 07:03:26 AM
Not Scorpion.
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: dzima1985 on April 24, 2013, 08:01:09 AM
Phoenix? .. first "S"  ;D

Sabre?
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Djetset on April 24, 2013, 08:04:46 AM
Stealth would seem to be a fitting name!
Title: Re: PJ - 525
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2013, 05:36:25 AM
And Sabre it is!
The Sabre Car Development of Pinetown was founded by John Donnelly, Graham Fraser and David Lomas.
I don't have a name for the car.
Point for dzima1985 and for ValkyrieGT!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: dzima1985 on April 25, 2013, 08:28:30 AM
Grazie, Paul! :D
Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: ValkyrieGT on April 25, 2013, 09:01:03 AM
Thank you for the point Paul. Tough puzzle, I tried really hard to solve, but I was not successful.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2013, 09:22:19 AM
Grazie, Paul! :D
My pleasure!
Thank you for the point Paul. Tough puzzle, I tried really hard to solve, but I was not successful.
Right, but you managed to find the same car...only the name was missing.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: Carnut on July 31, 2013, 07:57:43 AM
Another picture:

Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 06, 2013, 07:28:28 AM
Cool pic, thank you!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ525- Sabre from South Africa
Post by: GrahamClayton on September 08, 2013, 06:16:10 AM
Some more information on the Sabre:

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the Sabre appeared briefly in 1991 (CAR April 1991) and boasted impressive credentials. It was developed in Pinetown by Sabre Car Development, a company set up by none other than John Donnelly (ex Brabham F1 designer) and partners David Lomas and Graham Fraser.

The Sabre was a mid-engined sportscar that weighed only around 800 kg and made use of a 110 kW 2,0-litre, 16-valve VW Golf engine driving the rear wheels through a VW five-speed gearbox. The chassis was a monocoque tub of bonded and riveted Zintex alloy sheeting, to which the front and rear suspension frames were bolted. The body was of glass reinforced plastic (GRP). The car’s suspension comprised of unequal length upper and lower wishbones all-round with adjustable coil/damper units, two anti-roll bars and disc brakes all-round. The top speed was calculated to be 220 km/h. Inside, the Sabre featured leather/vinyl trim and cloth-covered Recaro seats. Air-conditioning, electric windows and central locking were fitted.


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