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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
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This is a different kind of puzzle.
The car you see here is quite easy, but not THAT easy.
I'd like to know how it was supposed to be called.
If you guess and you are wrong, you are out.
You have to be sure and post the right answer.
I won't give clues...(but there's a big one).
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Read the rules!
Who will be first?
(I think I'll post more of these...)
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A Pontiac-Fiero based Enterra Vipre?
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The car you see here is quite easy, but not THAT easy.
Ouch...you are out :-\
I can't give clues...you'll see why it's not the correct answer at the end.
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Somebody had to go first! ;D
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I'll be the second to die, I guess.
The original intention was that the Enterra Vipre would be called the Enterra Style package, and sold directly by GM.
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I'll be the third. Other names considered were Sprint, P3000, Pegasus, Fiamma, Sunfire, and Firebird XP
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I'll be the fourth.
Joe Palumbo's Viper 2000 Prototype for Enterra?
"The car was built as a prototype by AAT (Advanced Automotive Technologies). The car came to Canada, when mr. Palumbo entered a joint venture with a Canadian company who wished to use the Viper 2000 design to build panels for the new Fiero. The car was to be known as the Enterra Vipre."
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Oh my...that's a mess!
Not Enterra, Style Package, Vipre, Sprint, P3000, Pegasus, Fiamma, Sunfire, Firebird XP or Viper 2000.
1st of all...if you were right you'll knew it right away!
Dzima1985 gave many right facts but you didn't notice the big clue left in the pic.
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I am with sixtee5cuda know the answer, but it's too late .. ;)
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I am with sixtee5cuda know the answer, but it's too late .. ;)
If you found the answer you know why it is the right one, with no doubts.
If nobody will get it, I know how to open it again.
It's a new kind of puzzle I have in mind and this is a ..test.
(Why do you think sixtee5cuda knows the answer? If the explanation doesn't reveal anything, of course)
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My version has helped to sixtee5cuda find the answer.
So I want him to try to guess.
Thanks ..
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Read the rules, please.
Otto, Sixtee5cuda, Ropat53, and you Dzima1985 cannot reply to this puzzle anymore. ;)
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Now, 2 of you know the answer and it didn't take long.
What about all others? No-one is risking?
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The answer is much, much easier now...you just have to take a good look at it!
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If you guess at the car and you are wrong, you can't guess anymore...but you can always try a different approach...
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1988 Enterra TR256(L.A. Motor Show, 1988). One of two built.
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Delivered to Longpre Pontiac, Westminster, California...after the 1988 Los Angeles auto show. :)
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Thank you for keeping this alive...but it's not the right answer.
As I wrote before, I could have posted many pics of the Enterra, but only this one can be found of the ______!
There is no doubt, once you'll find the answer you'll know why it is the correct one.
Unfortunately you are out too now :-\
Enterra is not the name, but in the previous replies there was something that will lead you to the solution.
Otto, Sixtee5cuda, Ropat53, Dzima1985 and ValkyrieGT cannot reply to this puzzle anymore ;)
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Is it a prototype for the official Mera conversion package?
I only guess that because of the Ferrari-like wheels..
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Not Mera.
I'll explain even better.
There's a man in the picture. He is the key. I had to blur his head because it's quite known.
I won't give further clues on him.
You can find all you need here...you will have no doubts then.
Since 2 of you know the answer, after a short period, I'm going to open it for all again.
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Is it Muhammad Ali in the picture, and was the car going to be the Ali 3WC?
Around the time the Enterra was designed Ali set up a company called Ali Motors Inc to make a GM-based sports car to be designed by Joe Palumbo, but in the end it was never produced.
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Is it Muhammad Ali in the picture, and was the car going to be the Ali 3WC?
Around the time the Enterra was designed Ali set up a company called Ali Motors Inc to make a GM-based sports car to be designed by Joe Palumbo, but in the end it was never produced.
:thumbsup:
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And you are right, of course!
It's easy when you know the answer!
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Paul, unmodified photo, please..
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Of course!
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Great pugilist; not so great an auto industry exec.
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I am glad some coverage is given to this car. I have seen a picture in an Arab newspaper in 86 or 87 but didn't buy it unfortunately. Since then I couldn't find a picture anywhere.
Please put in a full picture of the car, if possible.
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That's the only one I found so far. :-\
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The article (from unknown magazine for me), October 13, 1986:
"The former world heavyweight champion, who has a farm a hundred or so miles north of here, in Afton, is planning to enter the automobile business with a sleek new car that bears his name - the Ali-3WC. And he hopes to manufacture it here in tobacco country, on the southern edge of the state.
"The project is in its very early stages right now," said Halifax County Administrator Joseph N. Morgan, who has negotiated with the principals of the newly formed Ali Motors Inc. over the location of the $12 million assembly plant.
If everything goes as planned, the company would begin producing the limited-edition sports car in an assembly plant just outside of this town of 7,500 by the end of next summer.
Ali and his five partners in the project have applied for $9.3 million in county industrial revenue bonds to finance land purchases and construction. Local officials are expected to vote on the funding tonight.
"Assuming everything can come together, I would expect that sometime in the second quarter of next year, or perhaps the third quarter, cars will begin being produced," said Nelson Boon Jr. of Franksville, Wis., one of the partners in the corporation.
The corporation will attempt to trade on the fame of the three-time world champion - that's where the 3WC in the car's name comes from - to win an immediate share of the trade.
"We want to be aligned with a champion," Boon said, explaining why Ali was sought out to join the venture. "Ali has a significant following not only in this country, but throughout the world. . . . We expect immediate acceptance, especially in the Middle East."
At first, the car - which will feature a customized body and interior atop a General Motors chassis - will be sold solely in the Middle East. Ali, who is a Muslim, is highly regarded there, and his reputation is expected to boost sales.
Boon said the car won't be immediately sold in the United States because the lengthy regulatory processes of the Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation would prolong its debut.
"We know that our car will meet EPA and DOT standards, but you still have to go through the process," Boon said. "This way, while we're going through that process we'll be selling cars."
Eventually, the company projects producing 3,000 cars a year, with annual sales of $96 million worldwide.
The partners are reluctant to discuss the details of the car or the company. Boon even expressed dismay that a photograph of the prototype had leaked out.
He would only say of the design, which is said to be a cross between a Corvette and a Ferrari, that "the car is a derivative of a GM product."
Of Ali's involvement, Boon said, "He's going to be an integral part of the company. It's his image that is associated with the car and the concept that we have for it, so he will have a definite role, particularly in marketing and sales and so forth."
When the $35,000 Ali-3WC goes on sale, it will join a growing number of so- called "kit cars" on the market - cars featuring customized bodies and interiors on a standard, ready-made chassis.
In marketing his own line of sports car, Ali is putting his image as a boxing hero against that of Philip Michael Thomas, the television actor whose ego, judging from his boastful published interviews, is at least as big as Ali's.
The star of Miami Vice is the national spokesman for the Machiavelli, a limited-edition sports car in the same price range as the Ali-3WC that was unveiled in January."