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Title: Solved -PJ549- CIRA AvioCar
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 08, 2013, 03:02:32 PM

What is this?
1 point for you!

EDIT: picture changed!
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 14, 2013, 08:22:43 AM
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EDIT: This is the picture of a Volante, used before by mistake. Refer to the pic in the first post for the current puzzle, that has nothing to do with a Volante, (except the kind of vehicle) ;)


Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 14, 2013, 10:33:21 AM
Is this, Owosso car?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 14, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 14, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Was this a GM ,prototype jet-powered car?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 14, 2013, 12:06:28 PM
Not GM or jet-powered.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 14, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Is it American?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 15, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
Not American...
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 15, 2013, 12:52:04 PM
Japanese?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 15, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
Not from there...
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 15, 2013, 02:03:42 PM
Im curious ,maybe the French?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: D-type on August 15, 2013, 05:23:17 PM
Australian?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 16, 2013, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on August 15, 2013, 02:03:42 PM
Im curious ,maybe the French?
Quote from: D-type on August 15, 2013, 05:23:17 PM
Australian?
Nox2
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: D-type on August 17, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
American
Japanese
French
Australian


Russian?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 17, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
Quote from: D-type on August 17, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
American
Japanese
French
Australian


Russian?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 21, 2013, 04:08:38 PM
Pros?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: D-type on August 22, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
Where's left?  South Africa?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 22, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
Not South Africa.
There's quite a lot left.... ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 30, 2013, 07:49:36 AM
It won't take you much once you'll find the place...
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2013, 08:23:20 AM
European?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 30, 2013, 09:06:15 AM
Sì... ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 30, 2013, 06:06:31 PM
litestar pulse?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: kwgibbs on August 30, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
just found out the Owosso is the same car as litestar,I didn,t realize it at the time sorry.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 01, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
Can't be, it's European... ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: hermanoto on September 01, 2013, 06:47:48 AM
VOLANTE

It as the looks of the 'Volante'. Developed from 1976 onwards and intended to be produced as a kit for home mechanicals. Wings, front stubs and propeller are all removable (as in your picture). I have a picture of the prototype WITH these items on (see attachment) .Designed by K.P. Rice, with an aircooled four cylinder VW engine, 75 HP, placed behind the cabin. Calculated performance 130 mph in the air, 70 mph on the ground. It was licensed in California as a motorbike and it received an experimental FAA  airworthyness certificate.

I suppose this prototype of my picture is the SAME VEHICLE as yours. ou stated it is European, it roots are from California. My source didn't state that the kits were actually supplied. But if so, an European builder made his own version, with mechanicals to his own choise.....
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 01, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
You are right, of course...there is a website dedicated to this car with the same pic.
I found my pic in a site were another project (european) was featured....there were some drawings and only this pic.
I should have checked (I have it in my HD as Volante too!).

Now, I'm going to award you a point because you find the car in the picture, but I'll add the actual puzzle I was after.
Sorry about that... :-\
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 01, 2013, 03:14:16 PM
I'll upload a better one later.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: hermanoto on September 02, 2013, 02:01:04 AM
sdo this is a NEW puzzle. The other one is solved. Please add my earned point
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 02, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: hermanoto on September 02, 2013, 02:01:04 AM
sdo this is a NEW puzzle. The other one is solved. Please add my earned point
No, I just changed the pic with the correct one.
All my replies refer to the puzzle car and now the pic too.
As stated in my reply #25:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 01, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Now, I'm going to award you a point because you find the car in the picture, but I'll add the actual puzzle I was after.
Sorry about that... :-\
I'll award the points at the end, as usual.  ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: hermanoto on September 03, 2013, 11:33:51 AM
I am real puzzled with your way of puzzling.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 03, 2013, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: hermanoto on September 03, 2013, 11:33:51 AM
I am real puzzled with your way of puzzling.
It works, then!

Out of jokes, I had a vehicle in mind and there was a site describing it where you can find a picture of the Volante.
I thought it was the puzzle car under development but, as you found out, they just used a picture of a different car.
Since you identified the picture correctly as a Volante, I think you deserve a point, but in the meantime I replaced the Volante pic with the rendering of the one I was thinking of from the beginning.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 17, 2013, 08:03:26 AM
This one can't be too hard.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: thorax on October 18, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 18, 2013, 05:51:25 PM
Sì!
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: thorax on October 18, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
is involved the designer Gino d'Ignazio (Gizio)?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 18, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
I'll have to check but it's not the name I'm looking for.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 04, 2013, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: thorax on October 18, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
is involved the designer Gino d'Ignazio (Gizio)?
Not reported in my sources.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: thorax on November 04, 2013, 05:21:30 PM
ok.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
The name of this product is, as usual in this cases, not original at all and guess what...it's a combination of the 2 type of vehicles.
I won't lock after it will be found but the solution will be quite immediate, then.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
Autocopter?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
Not Autocopter...
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 01:39:44 PM
Autoheli?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
Not Autoheli.
The flying part in not 'helicopter-related'.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
Autoplane?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
Not Autoplane.
The flying part is quite generic and the 'terrestrian' part is not Auto but equally easy.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
Aerocar?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Almost there...71%
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 04:30:10 PM
Aircars?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
Again 71% correct!
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 08, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
Could it be Aerocarro?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 09, 2013, 08:04:41 AM
Aerocar was the closest so far.
It contains as many correct letters than the following 'Aircars' guess but they are both wrong.
Not Aerocarro. It is (was) an Italian project but the name doesn't sound italian.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 09, 2013, 08:40:53 AM
Aviocar by Sergio Petrella?
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 09, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Aviocar is correct.
I wrote I wouldn't lock it for the name but I think you found something.
Not Sergio Petrella, I'm looking for Company's name.
(I think you made a mixture of some of the real names involved or present in some sources where this car is featured  ;))
Locked for you.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 09, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
Centro Italiano di Ricerca Aerospaziale (CIRA) disegned the AvioCar under the Sergio (typo) Vetrella's presidency.

"The Center for Aerospace Research located in Campania is one of the institutions that suffer cuts to funds advanced by the Government. CIRA is a joint venture corporation, today a majority public: the State, through the Italian Space Agency (ASI) and the National Research Council (CNR), has, in fact, the majority with 52% of the share capital, which also participate in the Campania Region (16%) and the main Italian aerospace companies. The state has entrusted CIRA is responsible for defining and implementing the National Program for Aerospace Research (PRORA) that annually is supported with funding from the Ministry of Education."

I don't know if AvioCar was built by this joint venture or a private company. All sources show rendering designs and talk about CIRA.
If this info is not right, please unlock.
Title: Re: PJ - 549
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 09, 2013, 09:36:32 AM
All correct!
The missing bit was CIRA and of course it remained a project.
Point for you and for Hermanoto.