Solved -PJ554- Saratoga Twinax 4WD, 1994

[75america]

Animated movie?

[WayneB]

So the design and development of this car was paid for by a publisher?

[Paul Jaray]

was this a project by a supplier?
I won't call it a supplier, but yours is the closest guess so far.

Is it maybe a car for a movie production?
This is not correct but terribly close.

It was not built for a movie, TV series and it never appeared on TV.
It was meant for production and not for promotion purposes.......

They sell products...

The key is the Company and why they decided to buid this car.

Was the car featured in a comic book (similar to the Turbot cars and the Vaillante)

You are quite near to find the 1st part....

I won't waste your time.
If you rearrange what you read above you'll see:
There is a company selling products.
The Turbot/Vaillante guess was in the right direction. (do you remeber those cars? Where do they come from? Why?)
'A car for a movie production' was terribly close but the Puzzle car never appeared on TV, Movie, comics, etc.

[Allemano]

So, they did another version of this which actually had its debut on film?

[Paul Jaray]

Nope, this car was never featured on TV, etc.
Like the Turbot and the Vaillante it was the 'real' version of an 'unreal' car.

[faksta]

The original was a cartoon car?

[Paul Jaray]

Not a cartoon...remember, there's a company selling products behind this car...and this car was not built for promotional purposes...the 'unreal' car was a mock-up....

[hermanoto]

Bulgari

[Allemano]

Not a cartoon...remember, there's a company selling products behind this car...and this car was not built for promotional purposes...the 'unreal' car was a mock-up....

:scratch: I have to admit the more I follow this thread the more I get confused...

[Allemano]

They sell products...not a car rental or an industry association.

Kind of immaterial products = services?

[75america]

:scratch: I have to admit the more I follow this thread the more I get confused...

And on top of that, I wonder the whole time why this car is equipped with a sunroof.  I just don't see the point.
Is it from 1991?  It can't be much more recent. 

[4popoid]

According to Wikipedia, there was a Vaillante car made to be used as a camera carrier at LeMans to obtain action footage for a film in which the car itself never appeared.  Also according to Wikipedia, Vaillante was also involved in a driving school project.  Might the puzzle car have been constructed to obtain film footage for some sort of driving simulator (the automotive related product) to be used for driver training (another automotive related product), or other educational, purposes?

[Paul Jaray]

Bulgari

Not Bulgari

Not a cartoon...remember, there's a company selling products behind this car...and this car was not built for promotional purposes...the 'unreal' car was a mock-up....

:scratch: I have to admit the more I follow this thread the more I get confused...

I'll explain now.

They sell products...not a car rental or an industry association.

Kind of immaterial products = services?

Why immaterial?

:scratch: I have to admit the more I follow this thread the more I get confused...

And on top of that, I wonder the whole time why this car is equipped with a sunroof.  I just don't see the point.
Is it from 1991?  It can't be much more recent. 

Why not? It's more recent.

According to Wikipedia, there was a Vaillante car made to be used as a camera carrier at LeMans to obtain action footage for a film in which the car itself never appeared.  Also according to Wikipedia, Vaillante was also involved in a driving school project.  Might the puzzle car have been constructed to obtain film footage for some sort of driving simulator (the automotive related product) to be used for driver training (another automotive related product), or other educational, purposes?

Nope.


Now I'll explain.
A company, selling products (not totally disconnected to the automotive field but it's not the core business) promoted his products also with a fictional car.
Then, given the reaction of the pubblic, decided to build a real version of it (wasn't the same for Vaillante or Turbot? A fictional car made real?).
You are looking at the real version of a car used in commercials.
Now, if you read back all I wrote, you'll see that I was desperately pointing in this direction all the time!

[75america]

Car insurances or cleaning products?
1992?

[Paul Jaray]

Car insurances or cleaning products?
1992?

Cleaning products.
Later than '92.

[Allemano]

Is this company still in business?

[Paul Jaray]

Yes.

[Allemano]

MA-Fra?

[Paul Jaray]

Not that...

[jotage21]

Maguire?

[pnegyesi]

Atas?

[Paul Jaray]

No & no...

[hermanoto]

Industrial cleaning machines

[Paul Jaray]

Industrial cleaning machines

No, different lines of products and among these there are cleaning products.

[hermanoto]

sonax