Solved: PN #399 -- John Jennison's first special from the 1920s

Started by pnegyesi, November 06, 2012, 12:54:34 AM

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pnegyesi

not based on a Packard

RayTheRat


Craig Gillingham

Was this an actual car that was sold in numbers, or a one off?

RayTheRat

Is it from a large company like GM?

pnegyesi


RayTheRat

Quote from: pnegyesi on December 07, 2012, 08:07:21 AM
this was a one-off

ok, but was the base donor a large company?

pnegyesi

a member of the GM family

RayTheRat


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pnegyesi

no, this was a one-off built by an Australian individual

RayTheRat

I'm gonna have to leave this to Manuel or Craig cuz I'm slightly out of touch with historic one-offs from Down Under.   ;)

pnegyesi

the info is available online

RayTheRat

Ok.  Since Manuel and Craig seem to be on holiday, I'll try to narrow it down by year. 

Was the base car (the Chevy) built between 1925 and 1930?

pnegyesi


Manuel



Sorry boys. I am stumped on this one as well.
Tho the steering wheel and the bits I can see under the car scream Ford to me.

Happy New Year to all!!

Manuel in Oz

pnegyesi

Clues: the man raced this car in the 1920s but never won a race. So he decided to try his hands on motorboats.
But in the 1930s he built at least one more car

Craig Gillingham

#44
This car was built by John Jennison in Salisbury (A Northern suburb of Adelaide), in the late 20's. It's not clear when the photo was taken, from what I can figure out, after 1925.

Regarding what the car was based on, I think the answer that is required is Chevrolet. But, looking at the front on view of the car, that front axle and steering wheel are definitely from a Model T Ford, and by the look of it, the front cross member of the chassis as well; the car could have been made out of some Chev parts. That sump also looks T model, to me.

pnegyesi

very well found! Congratulations and two points for you

Craig Gillingham


Manuel



Putting Chev steel disc wheels on T Fords was popular in the good old days as was putting OHV 4 cyl Chev/Olds heads on T blocks [which were side valve] to make them breathe and rev better.
There is not much info around on hi speed parts made in Aus/NZ. They were avail from overseas @ great cost. So some did take the plunge and make them here in very small numbers.

Manuel in Oz

RayTheRat

I'm with Manuel.  After seeing the front view, I'm about 99 percent positive that it's not a Chevy frame.  As far as I know, Chevrolet never used a transverse spring...they used twin longitudinal semi-eliptic springs going back to their inception in 1911.  It's one reason the Model T (and the Model A after it) was so popular as a platform for dirt-track jalopies.  With a transverse spring, you could use snubbers to limit the amount of body roll (an early version of the sway bar) which made 'em handle much better than the longitudinal-sprung cars.  And I still gotta agree that the oil pan/bellhousing/transmission looks identical to a Model T's.

The first attached photo shows a Frontenac-head Model T Ford Speedster under construction.  The transverse spring is evident, as is the very large-diameter bellhousing that is characteristics of a Model T.

The 2nd photo shows a Model T Speedster with the same "hallmark" bellhousing and disc wheels.

I'm not arguing for a point, just an accuracy thing.


pnegyesi

You may be right. My assumption was based on the fact that the car stands in front of a Chevy dealership