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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: pnegyesi on February 10, 2013, 04:23:42 AM

Title: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: pnegyesi on February 10, 2013, 04:23:42 AM
Please identify this car for a point
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 18, 2013, 12:02:04 AM
Experts?
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Post by: targhediferro on February 18, 2013, 12:28:07 AM
English?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 18, 2013, 01:33:42 AM
no
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Post by: targhediferro on February 18, 2013, 04:29:18 AM
It looks as this car was provided for a specific use, is it a Cab?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 18, 2013, 06:58:07 AM
Yes, this was mostly used as a taxi
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: targhediferro on February 18, 2013, 07:26:51 AM
Is it perhaps an AGA?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 18, 2013, 07:44:48 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: targhediferro on February 18, 2013, 11:04:04 AM
German?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 18, 2013, 11:15:04 AM
no
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Post by: targhediferro on February 18, 2013, 04:41:15 PM
European?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 19, 2013, 12:58:25 AM
yes
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: 4popoid on February 19, 2013, 01:35:26 AM
Unic taxi from about 1920/1922?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 19, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
not French so not a Unic
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Post by: targhediferro on February 19, 2013, 03:31:58 PM
I've noticed that rear pneus are bigger than front ones;  this may mean that it comes from a state where lots of streets were dusty and muddy yet;  so I think to eastern Europe. Am I right or wrong?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 19, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
more like Central Europe
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Post by: targhediferro on February 19, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
Poland?
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Post by: 4popoid on February 20, 2013, 01:11:41 AM
Laurin & Klement taxi from about 1920?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 20, 2013, 01:59:23 AM
not PL or CZ (so not a Laurin-Klement)
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Post by: targhediferro on February 20, 2013, 02:53:19 AM
osterreich?
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Post by: 4popoid on February 20, 2013, 02:54:51 AM
Puch taxi from about 1920?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 20, 2013, 03:39:43 AM
It is from Austria, but not a Puch - much more obscure
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: 4popoid on February 20, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
I have discovered the Austrian firm Avis Flugzeug- und Autowerke, which I understand made automobiles from 1921 to 1928, and which were sometimes used as taxis.  I can find no pictures or further information, but I will guess that the puzzle car is an: Avis taxi from about 1923.
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 20, 2013, 03:33:13 PM
Avis was  on Autopuzzles before:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20261.25

So this one is not an Avis
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: 4popoid on February 20, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Perl taxi from about 1924?
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Post by: targhediferro on February 21, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
Nesselsdorf?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 24, 2013, 03:54:42 AM
not a Perl or a Nesselsdorf
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: targhediferro on February 24, 2013, 05:21:56 AM
Perhaps a E.S.A., from 1922-3?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 24, 2013, 05:52:25 AM
This is an ESA:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21145.15

The puzzle car is not an ESA :)
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: 4popoid on February 24, 2013, 06:28:17 PM
WAF taxi from about 1922?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 24, 2013, 11:47:23 PM
No
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: 4popoid on February 25, 2013, 01:41:35 AM
Grofri (Gross & Friedmann) taxi from 1921/1924?  Not the 1924-1927 Grofri, built under license from Amilcar (as previously seen on Autopuzzles), but a previous model of their own design.
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 25, 2013, 03:09:27 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 09:31:39 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: Wendax on February 26, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
Fuchs?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 10:26:29 AM
no
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Post by: woodinsight on February 26, 2013, 11:05:47 AM
Barth-und Kohler?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
no
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Post by: Wendax on February 26, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
Eos?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: Wendax on February 26, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
Recordmobil?
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: João on February 26, 2013, 12:13:40 PM
It's a Dietrich & Urban from 1914.
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
It is locked for Joao. It is almost correct. It is not a Dietrich & Urban but a Di... & Urban. And the year can be anything between 1914-1925
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: João on February 27, 2013, 01:12:12 PM
Please, unlock it.  ;)

Thanks.
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: Wendax on February 27, 2013, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 26, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
It is locked for Joao. It is almost correct. It is not a Dietrich & Urban but a Di... & Urban. And the year can be anything between 1914-1925
Are you sure, Pal? Krackowizer has it as Dietrich & Urban, too.
Title: Re: PN #448
Post by: pnegyesi on February 27, 2013, 01:40:46 PM
I stand corrected. Joao gets the point. I had it Ditmar&Urban, but that is obviously a mistake
Title: Re: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: João on February 27, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: nicanary on February 28, 2013, 07:14:14 AM
I often look up obscure marques after they've been solved, just to add to my personal knowledge. Georgano has no reference to Dietrich and Urban, Ditmar and Urban, or any combination of the names. Strange indeed, unless it was a one-off.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: pnegyesi on February 28, 2013, 08:07:55 AM
It was not a one-off, about a hundred were produced between 1914-1925.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: Wendax on February 28, 2013, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 28, 2013, 07:14:14 AM
I often look up obscure marques after they've been solved, just to add to my personal knowledge. Georgano has no reference to Dietrich and Urban, Ditmar and Urban, or any combination of the names. Strange indeed, unless it was a one-off.
You can find it in the German wikipedia (with source mentioned).
Title: Re: Solved: PN #448 -- Dietrich&Urban, cca 1914
Post by: DeAutogids on February 28, 2013, 09:12:05 AM
though they say it was only made in 1914
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