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Title: Solved: PN #461 -- Meeting of "old crocks", old cars in Paris, 1906
Post by: pnegyesi on March 11, 2013, 11:09:05 AM
I am now preparing my application for a PhD university course. In the process I found a nice article, so I am submitting three puzzles, based on that article.

What is this event? Year and place are also required for a point
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: RayTheRat on March 12, 2013, 10:43:26 AM
 :thumbsup:  Best wishes on your doctorate studies!
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: pnegyesi on March 19, 2013, 01:24:48 AM
Experts?
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 26, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: nicanary on March 26, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
There appear to be Gendarmes centre right.
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: pnegyesi on March 26, 2013, 12:39:59 PM
go on :)
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Post by: nicanary on March 26, 2013, 12:43:08 PM
Some of the cars are very early, and there are still several horse-drawn carriages, but there are also cars with a more modern look - I'd say around 1908. Paris? Anything to do with the Olympic Games ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 26, 2013, 01:34:40 PM
now, let's see. Paris is right. 1908 is not. Nothing to do with Olympic Games
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Post by: nicanary on March 26, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
Anything to do with Bleriot arriving home from Dover? That would make it 1909.
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 26, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
nothing to do with it
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Post by: nicanary on March 27, 2013, 08:55:59 AM
The arrival of a finisher in the Peking-Paris race ?
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: pnegyesi on March 27, 2013, 09:01:20 AM
no
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Post by: D-type on April 17, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Arrival of a finisher in the New York to Paris race?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 18, 2013, 12:46:14 AM
Not a race
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Post by: woodinsight on April 18, 2013, 04:20:45 AM
Some sort of protest gathering?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 18, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
no
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Post by: ropat53 on April 18, 2013, 09:45:13 PM
Is it related to the Paris Salon D'Automobile.
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: pnegyesi on April 19, 2013, 12:22:04 AM
No
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Post by: D-type on April 19, 2013, 05:19:40 PM
French suffragettes?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 20, 2013, 12:36:59 AM
No
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Post by: faksta on April 22, 2013, 05:12:13 AM
The two 'more modern' cars seem to be making their way to the center of the crowd, where there is some space for them (for them?) seemingly. The presence of gendarmes makes me curious, though.

Some kind of car requisition maybe?
Title: Re: PN #461
Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 08:39:18 AM
you spotted one important element on the picture. And it is not the gendarmerie. It is not a car requisition
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2013, 09:04:38 AM
Is it a set for an early movie?
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Post by: nicanary on April 22, 2013, 09:06:01 AM
Is it a political meeting with the cars being used as platforms for a speech ?

I've just realised the date could be 1906. Anything to do with the "Dreyfus Affair" ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
not early movie, not a political meeting, nothing to do with the Dreyfus affair
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Are the cars the object of the gathering in any way or are they just bringing there people for the (unknown) event?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 09:39:49 AM
yes, this meeting was focusing on the cars
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Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2013, 09:40:54 AM
Are those cars taxis?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
I don't think so
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Post by: ropat53 on April 22, 2013, 11:14:28 AM
Is it the presentation of a new model or marque, the two cars that are driving into the crowd, seem to be the same?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 11:25:50 AM
It is not about new cars
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Post by: faksta on April 22, 2013, 12:25:02 PM
(One of the) first Concours d'Elegance?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2013, 12:34:42 PM
...or one of the first meeting of 'classic' cars?
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 12:49:17 PM
It is a point for PJ. "Old Crocks", assembling at the Place de la Concorde, Paris, 1906
Title: Re: Solved: PN #461 -- Meeting of "old crocks", old cars in Paris, 1906
Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2013, 01:23:39 PM
The landmark event in defining the characteristics of this cultural development (how the motor-car was beginning to be identified as both collectable and museum object) was the parade of 'vieux tacots' in Paris in November, 1906. Assembling at the Place de la Concorde, the pre-1901 vehicles set out on a route via the Champs Elysées to Bagatelle, Suresnes and Sévres, before returning to Paris. Capturing the imagination of the motoring enthusiast, the occasion introduced the concept of history as performance and the historic vehicle as 'old crock' and veteran.
From: David Jeremiah: The formation and legacy of Britain's first motor museum. Published in 1998