Please identify this bus. I need the manufacturer of the chassis and the coachbuilder. If both are identified correctly, I'll give the lucky puzzler a point. I won't lock for partially correct replies
Experts?
pegaso?
no
DAF by Van Oers?
not a DAF and not by Van Oers
Groenewold?
no
Is it by a Dutch coachbuilder?
Can this be a Bedford by Edesche ca 1955?
Bill
not a Bedford, not by Edesche, but the year is approximately okay
Quote from: ropat53 on May 20, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
Is it by a Dutch coachbuilder?
Please is it by a Dutch coachbuilder?
oops, sorry, I missed your question. Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from The Netherlands
Spanish?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Spain
Belgian coachbuilder?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Belgium
Scania?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Sweden
Poland?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Poland
Irish?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Ireland
Did it cames from Vatican City?...or perhaps Portugal?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from either Vatican City or Portugal. (remember one country at a time).
Of course Vatican City was a joke...Austrian?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Austria and with Vatican City Italy has also been excluded
It is European isn't it?
absolutely - both the chassis and the coachbuilder were located in Europe
British? If yes a Bedford.
German?
Neither the chassis or the coachbuilder came from UK or Germany
Hungarian?
I could say that either the chassis or the coachbuilder came from Hungary, but that would be torture. So I am helping you a bit: the chassis is Hungarian
Ikarus 30 with Csepel D-413 engine?
The chassis is Hungarian. The body is not
Hi Pal:
A bit late for you tonight, but some observations and a question to try to cut down on research time.
Thanks to your websites and others, one can get a good handle on Hungarian vehicles and coach builders.
That has lead me to view that which I was not aware of before, the strength of Hungarian commercial vehicle imports. Both, during the "Cold War" period to various Soviet Union affiliated countries, and afterwards to countries like Syria, Turkey and Iran in the "After Cold War but we still do not like the West" period.
My "clue" question is, was this vehicle exported to or bodied in one of those two "Cold War" scenario countries. I hope that is not too many questions.
Bill
The whole bus was built behind the Iron Curtain - so it was definitely a product of the Cold War.
Professionals?
The body of this bus was made in 1956 by Autokaroserija Split for the Promet company of Split. The donor of the chassis is not clearly indicated on the site -due to the Google croatian translation- but I'll try Ikarus, as the Csepels bodied by Autokaroserija Split are slightly different. There is even an image of a bus whose logo is IF and which is described as an Ikarus, even if it looks like an Isotta Fraschini.
There's nothing I can add - beside a point for you of course :)