Please identify this car for a point
Experts?
Professionals?
From USA, about 1903?
not USA, slightly younger
German?
no
English? If yes a Speedwell 1904?
British, 1904 - but not a Speedwell
1904 Victrix?
no
Napier?...or it's from an obscure maker?
relatively obscure, not a Napier
Belsize?
no
Could it be Gilburt Light Car?
no
1904 Iden?
no
1904 Alldays?
no
1904 Chambers?
no
De Dion-engined?
yes
Planet?
no
Bailey and Lambert ? (nee Lacoste et Battmann )
no
Jackson?
Abingdon?
Canterbury 6hp ?
Abingdon
Alldays
Bailey-Lambert
Belsize
Chambers
Canterbury
Gilburt
Idrn
Jackson
Napier
Planet
Victrix
Bowen?
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 17, 2013, 11:15:32 AM
Abingdon
Alldays
Bailey-Lambert
Belsize
Bowen
Chambers
Canterbury
Gilburt
Idrn
Jackson
Napier
Planet
Victrix
Caledonian ?
Utile-Simplex?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 17, 2013, 11:23:51 AM
Utile-Simplex?
Ah. He's going through Georgano from the back, and I'm starting at the front.
(It's amazing how many engines de Dion sold in that period. The cross-channel ferries must have been loaded with them).
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 17, 2013, 11:15:32 AM
Abingdon
Alldays
Bailey-Lambert
Belsize
Bowen
Caledonian
Chambers
Canterbury
Gilburt
Idrn
Jackson
Napier
Planet
Util-Simplex
Victrix
Speedwell?
King?
Achilles?
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 17, 2013, 11:15:32 AM
Abingdon
Achilles
Alldays
Bailey-Lambert
Belsize
Bowen
Caledonian
Chambers
Canterbury
Gilburt
Idrn
Jackson
King
Napier
Planet
Speedwell
Util-Simplex
Victrix
Waddington?
Pelham?
chain driven?
not any of the above. I don't think it's in Georgano, because this was not a car manufacturer, but advertised this car as its own (see one of Otto Puzzell's explanation in one of his later puzzles, which is similar in concept to this).
And there's a possible connection to Lacoste et Battmann
I think I revealed enough - so who'll be the first?
Gamage?
Gamage!
And Allemano scores :)
Gamage was a department store which offered this voiturette in 1904-1905
And it IS mentioned in Georgano, complete with supposition that it was a Lacoste et Battmann re-badged.
Ah, Gamages!
Oddly enough the one Gamage car of that period that survives is Aster-engined, not de Dion.
(http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/thumb/2/2a/Im10LBVCR-307-GamAster.jpg/180px-Im10LBVCR-307-GamAster.jpg)
Quote from: nicanary on September 17, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
And it IS mentioned in Georgano, complete with supposition that it was a Lacoste et Battmann re-badged.
My copy is still in a box. Eventually I"ll unpack everything