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Title: Solved: PN #564 -- Ray Heppenstall's H-Mod
Post by: pnegyesi on November 05, 2013, 05:02:55 AM
Please identify this car for a point: builder's name and donor will be enough (picture changed because the original was a repost)
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 12, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
Experts?
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Post by: D-type on November 13, 2013, 05:33:44 PM
It looks very small, is the donor a Mini?
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 16, 2013, 02:05:44 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: nicanary on November 28, 2013, 05:52:04 AM
Crosley-based?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2013, 05:53:26 AM
Looks like an Almquist
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 28, 2013, 06:03:42 AM
Crosley-based, maybe featuring an Almquist body but that was not its name
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: nicanary on November 28, 2013, 10:26:48 AM
It appears to be RHD which is confusing. And it looks far more like a Jabro shell to me. Has the image been reversed in error?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
It appears to be RHD which is confusing. And it looks far more like a Jabro shell to me. Has the image been reversed in error?
You are right...this is what I had in mind:
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 28, 2013, 11:57:28 AM
The image has not been reversed. And unfortunately the source where I found the car, is incorrect, regarding its name. Therefore this car is a repost of a 2012 puzzle. Should I merge it?
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Post by: D-type on November 28, 2013, 03:46:47 PM
No, let someone solve it then merge them.  But no points if it's the original solver or someone who came close.
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: nicanary on November 29, 2013, 06:48:58 AM
I have used the Search facility and there's nothing there to indicate this car was used as a puzzle in 2012. Because I am an idiot, and suffering from boredom and probably OCD, I went through all 168 pages of the 2012 Solved Puzzles. My finger hurts.

There are 4 cars which are possible - Cleary, Graves, Gardner and the Motto Nardi. This new puzzle does not appear to be any of these cars. Was it part of a Group Puzzle?
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 29, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
I am very sad to say that it is from 2012 indeed but not from any of the above
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 30, 2013, 07:01:39 AM
It's Ray Heppenstall's H-Mod with a Crosley engine and a home-made body of fiberglass and aluminum.



Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 30, 2013, 08:51:53 AM
And here's the catch. I was also under the impression, that it was built by Mr Heppenstall, but apparently not. You can find the story online, this is the Gene Voigt Crosley special
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19875.0
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: nicanary on November 30, 2013, 09:11:38 AM
You have me very confused - please explain. One car is RHD, the other LHD.
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 30, 2013, 09:24:52 AM
Now you got me confused.

If you check the story of the Voigt Crosley special online, you will see that Ray Heppenstall had bought the car in 2001 from an Ohio couple who had told him they bought it at a garage sale. He did not know it was the Voigt special. It is only now known

Is it possible that Heppenstall built himself a Jabro-like Crosley H-mod special and then decades later bought another very similar one with LHD??? Anyone, any advices?
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: nicanary on November 30, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
The article tells us that Heppenstall was a well-known Crosley specialist, and it is more than likely that he built his own car. The puzzle photo clearly dates from the late 50s/early 60s when H-mod cars were being built, and I believe that the puzzle photo is of a completely different car, and not the Voigt car which he purchased in the 00s. He probably bought it like a lot of older people, to remind himself of the "old days".

I'm convinced that they are two very different cars. Mind you, the puzzle has been solved anyway!

PS The steering rack came from a Renault 4CV but this still doesn't explain why he decided to make the car RHD for racing in the USA. Seems a bit odd to me.
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 30, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
You have me very confused - please explain. One car is RHD, the other LHD.

More important, the Voigt car has a front-mounted engine; the Heppentall car's engine is in the rear.
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 30, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
I have used the Search facility and there's nothing there to indicate this car was used as a puzzle in 2012. Because I am an idiot, and suffering from boredom and probably OCD, I went through all 168 pages of the 2012 Solved Puzzles. My finger hurts.

There are 4 cars which are possible - Cleary, Graves, Gardner and the Motto Nardi. This new puzzle does not appear to be any of these cars. Was it part of a Group Puzzle?
Thank you, I mean it: thank you.
Now I know I'm not alone.
I spent a lot of time doing the same but in my case I actually had to open hundreds of pics because they do not show no more...
I came to the same conclusion.
Title: Re: PN #564
Post by: pnegyesi on November 30, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
Okay, I am sorry if I misled anyone. The point belongs to Otto P