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Started by Wendax, September 03, 2013, 01:48:39 PM

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Wendax

The right car, although not correctly identified, because it is a Cegga, but not the Cegga Maserati.
The hint however is not the right one, but you have got the right idea.

4popoid

Rust 27 was a Ferrari bodied Ghia- Aigle.

Hint 14 says: Part of the coachbuilder's name is the town where the next car in the chain was built.

Rust 14 is a Cegga built in Aigle, Switzerland.

So: Hint 14 and Rust 14.

Wendax

That's correct. It is the Cegga Ferrari , by the way.

4popoid, you have to take a break here until the next connection is found, and Joao is back in the race.

Tom_I

So is this where Hint 26 comes in?

Quote26: The name of the town where this car was built will give the marque of the next car, but it has to be translated first.

Rust 14 is a Cegga made in Aigle, Switzerland. 'Aigle' translated from French to German gives 'Adler', and Rust 11 is an Adler streamlined sports racing car from the 1930s.

targhediferro

Supposing Tom_I is right, I guess the following hint should be number 10, and the rust n.17...same name, Adler (not Eagle as I told before), but not a car.

Wendax

Quote from: Tom_I on September 06, 2013, 03:52:41 AM
So is this where Hint 26 comes in?

Quote26: The name of the town where this car was built will give the marque of the next car, but it has to be translated first.

Rust 14 is a Cegga made in Aigle, Switzerland. 'Aigle' translated from French to German gives 'Adler', and Rust 11 is an Adler streamlined sports racing car from the 1930s.
Yes, correct. You don't have to pause, because ...

Wendax

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Quote from: targhediferro on September 06, 2013, 10:15:55 AM
Supposing Tom_I is right, I guess the following hint should be number 10, and the rust n.17...same name, Adler (not Eagle as I told before), but not a car.
... targhediferro is right, too, and has to wait. 4popoid is back in.

4popoid

Rust 17 is the Adler (Eagle) locomotive which made its famous first ride in 1835 from Nuremberg to Fürth.

Hint 28 says: The most famous ride of this vehicle started in the town where the next car was built.

Rust 7 is a Zündapp Janus built in Nuremberg.

So: Hint 28 and Rust 7.

Wendax

Quote from: 4popoid on September 06, 2013, 12:55:28 PM
Rust 17 is the Adler (Eagle) locomotive which made its famous first ride in 1835 from Nuremberg to Fürth.

Hint 28 says: The most famous ride of this vehicle started in the town where the next car was built.

Rust 7 is a Zündapp Janus built in Nuremberg.

So: Hint 28 and Rust 7.
Correct again. Now it's your term to pause and targhediferro can participate again.

Tom_I

Not absolutely sure about this, but from Rust 7, the Zündapp Janus, I'll try Hint 19:
Quote19: This car's builder also constructed completely different vehicles. A museum especially for those machines can be found in the town where the next vehicle in the chain was built.

Zündapp also made motorcycles, mopeds, scooters and lawnmowers. There is a Zündapp Museum in Sigmaringen in Baden-Württemberg.

Veritas sports and racing cars were made at Hausen am Andelsbach, just outside Sigmaringen. Rust 8 is Paul Pietsch's Veritas streamlined special pictured after a serious crash on the Nordkurve of the AVUS racetrack in Berlin in 1952.

So Rust 7, Hint 19, Rust 8, the link being Sigmaringen.

Wendax

Sorry, that is not the right one.

targhediferro

I'm hardly expert in Greek and roman mithology, but I guess that Janus and Goliath could be relatives, and perhaps son and father, so I try to say that hint n.1 takes to Rust n.18 that, if I'm not wrong is a Goliath truck.

Wendax

Rust 18 is neither a Goliath nor the next one in the chain, but follow your guess about the hint.

targhediferro

Sorry, a typing mistake; I supposed that rust number 10 (not 18) is a Goliath...perhaps its anyway wrong.

Wendax

Rust 10 isn't a Goliath, and the historical Goliath isn't a relative of any god, so we are looking for something/someone else.

targhediferro

Ok, stop fishing...it should be one of the several rusts I haven't been yet able to identify.

Tom_I

We seem to have ground to a halt here. From what has been said, would we be right in thinking that Hint 1 (the names of two cars being the names of a son and his father) is the correct one to find the next link in the chain?

Wendax

Yes, and I have to admit that the father-son-relationship is debatable. Some say yes, some no. I took my information from the German edition of a well known site. The English edition won't help you.

Tom_I

Thank you. Now it appears a little bit clearer. So we start from Rust 7, the Zündapp Janus, and go via Hint 1:
Quote1: The names of this car and of the next one are the names of a son and his father.

In English versions of Roman mythology, Janus is considered to be one of the oldest of the gods, and generally no parents are identified. Some mythologies say he was the son of Apollo, but that needs you to accept a crossover between Greek and Roman mythology, and it didn't seem to help with the puzzle.

I did wonder if planets and moons were referred to as fathers and sons in some languages, as Janus is a moon of Saturn, but I couldn't find any evidence for this.

But now the German Wikipedia entry for Janus says that legends describe him as a child of Saturn and Entoria, but the origin of this is uncertain.

So if we accept that Janus was the son of Saturn, that leads to Rust 29, a Saturn Sky roadster produced by General Motors between 2006 and 2009.

Wendax

Absolutely correct! The other contestants including 4popoid might take over.

4popoid

Just my luck, I was ineligible for the last round, which I knew, but, now that I am eligible, I'm not sure if I can identify the Rust, although I'm pretty sure of the Hint. Oh well, here goes:

Rust 29 was correctly identified as a Saturn Sky.

Hint 25 says:  A badge-engineered version of this car was the namesake of another car that was built at the company where the next vehicle in the chain came from.  The Opel GT, built by Opel, was a badge engineered version of the Saturn Sky.

I think Rust 16 might be an Opel, possibly a 1960/1963 Opel Record A.

So: Hint 25 and Rust 16.

     

Wendax

Right hint, wrong rust. You have to dig a little deeper, I'm afraid.

4popoid

I thought that might be a bit too easy.

I am going to assume  that I'm looking for an Opel brand vehicle, just not Rust 16.  Since the hint says vehicle, not car, I'm going to try a bus.

How about Rust 28?

Wendax

Rust 28 is neither an Opel nor the next vehicle in the chain. You better read Hint 25 again.  ;)

Ehhxekt

Amazing puzzle!
Following hint 25, I suspect a French connection here. The namesake of the badge-engineered Sky must be Opel's first GT, the nice, Kadett-based coupe, introduced back in the late sixties. Its metal body was built abroad, by Chausson, a firm that operated as a prosperous bus manufacturer in the fifties – which leads us to Rust 4, a skeleton of one of their popular models. So how about Hint 25 – Rust 4: Chausson AP(H)52?