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Title: Solved TGF-73: Ansaldo 22 Cesare Sala, 1932
Post by: targhediferro on March 16, 2013, 12:20:27 PM
Make, model, year and coachbuilder for a point.
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Post by: targhediferro on March 19, 2013, 07:27:55 AM
Up!
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Post by: mekubb on March 19, 2013, 07:57:27 AM
American ?
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Post by: Bill Murray on March 19, 2013, 08:15:16 AM
This is not my era, but a wild guess would be a Lancia Dilambda of about 1930 used as a Hotel Limousine or maybe even a Taxi.  Body could be Pininfarina.

Bill
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Post by: targhediferro on March 19, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
Not American;   Not a Lancia;  Not Pininfarina;
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Post by: Bill Murray on March 19, 2013, 10:03:33 AM
If I may ask, is it at least Italian?
Bill
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Post by: targhediferro on March 19, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
Yes, italian.
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on March 19, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
Fiat
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Post by: Bill Murray on March 19, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
I am with Cuda here, closest I can get is a Fiat 525 but I cannot get a photo with the same louvres in the side of the engine hood.

Looks to be more commercial to me than private.  Maybe even a hearse.

Bill
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Post by: 4popoid on March 19, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
I am having the same problem you are Bill.  It looks like a Fiat, although I think a bit earlier than a 525, but I can't locate those slanted louvers (some Ansaldos have slanted louvers, but the radiator doesn't look right).  Since the name of a coachbuilder is required, I'll assume that the unique louvers are a product of the coachbuilder, and call the puzzle car a: 1926 Fiat 512 by Fissore. 
Title: Re: TGF-73
Post by: targhediferro on March 19, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
I could say it is not a Fiat 525 and neither a Fiat 521, but I want to be honest and so I say...it is not a Fiat at all.   It is neither an hearse.
Title: Re: TGF-73
Post by: 4popoid on March 19, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
Ansaldo?
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Post by: Bill Murray on March 19, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
Possibly Ansaldo Tipo 22.
No lock, I have no clue beyond that observation, question open.
Bill
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Post by: targhediferro on March 19, 2013, 06:36:43 PM
Yes, it is an Ansaldo type 22.  No lock for 4popoid because of Bill overcoming, no lock for Bill because of his request.  So, add coachbuilder and year and you have a point.
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Post by: mekubb on March 19, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
Ansaldo Tipo 22 from 1929, body by Castagna. I believe the term Limousine-Dorsay was added to the name as well
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Post by: 4popoid on March 19, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
Just to stay in the running, I'll say: 1928 Ansaldo Tipo 22 by Fissore.
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 02:16:35 AM
Not Castagna and not Fissore.
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Post by: 4popoid on March 20, 2013, 02:39:39 AM
1928 Ansaldo Tipo 22 by Boneschi?
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Post by: mekubb on March 20, 2013, 05:23:45 AM
Pinin farina ?
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 06:48:52 AM
Not Boneschi and not Pinin Farina...I like that you didn't write Pininfarina (that's right only after 1966, when the Presindent of Republic, ufficially modified the surname of Giuseppe Farina).
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Post by: Carnut on March 20, 2013, 07:03:40 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 06:48:52 AM
Not Boneschi and not Pinin Farina...I like that you didn't write Pininfarina (that's right only after 1966, when the Presindent of Republic, ufficially modified the surname of Giuseppe Farina).

Carrozzeria Pinin Farina actually became Carrozzeria Pininfarina in 1961 I believe.  Sergio changed the family name officially in 1966 to match the name of his Carrozzeria!
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 07:14:30 AM
Oh yes, you're completely right!
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Post by: mekubb on March 20, 2013, 08:32:46 AM
Montescani ?
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 12:25:31 PM
Not Montescani.
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Post by: Craig Gillingham on March 20, 2013, 12:41:13 PM
Viotti?
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 01:48:44 PM
Neither Viotti.
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Post by: mekubb on March 20, 2013, 01:51:13 PM
Bertone ?
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on March 20, 2013, 05:17:03 PM
Zagato?
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
Not Bertone and not Zagato, sorry.
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Post by: 4popoid on March 20, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
1928 Ansaldo Tipo 22 by Stabilimenti Farina?
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Post by: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Not a Farina product.
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Post by: 4popoid on March 20, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
1928 Ansaldo Tipo 22 by Touring?
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Post by: 4popoid on March 20, 2013, 07:24:10 PM
On second thought, I think it might be a: 1928 Ansaldo Tipo 22 by Cesare Sala of Milano.
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Post by: targhediferro on March 21, 2013, 02:08:24 AM
That's right! It is a Cesare Sala limousine, from 1932. The picture was shot in 1938 when the car was used as a taxi, in front of Carlo Felice theathre, in Genoa.  A point for you.
Title: Re: Solved TGF-73: Ansaldo 22 Cesare Sala, 1932
Post by: Wendax on December 05, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
An Austrian Ansaldo Tipo 22 brochure: