AutoPuzzles - The Internet's Museum of Rare Cars!

Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: Wendax on October 04, 2013, 01:35:24 AM

Title: Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
Post by: Wendax on October 04, 2013, 01:35:24 AM
Picture of an exhibition.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 02:10:18 AM
up
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 02:38:41 AM
As close as I can tell, it looks like an Adler Diplomat 3GD of the year 1934.
Bill
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 02:54:09 AM
1934 is correct, but it is not an Adler.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 05:39:08 AM
I cannot find a photo of such a car with sidemounted spare wheels, but then perhaps a Hanomag Sturm.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 06:17:46 AM
Not a Hanomag
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 07:46:35 AM
Sorry, I was too lazy to go through my whole reference library.

A Stoewer Grief V8.  Very pretty, very rare.

Bill
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
You are right, and you are not. It is not a Stoewer Greif, although it has a lot to do with it. Locked for you to find out more.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Allemano on October 11, 2013, 07:53:30 AM
max: I removed your post as the puzzle was locked for Bill!
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 08:09:58 AM
Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

Bill
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: max on October 11, 2013, 08:11:25 AM
Sorry - hadn't paid attention.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 08:13:02 AM
Quote from: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 08:09:58 AM
Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

Bill

You are moving off target now. Stick to the Stoewer Greif and have a second thought.

Locked for one more try.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 08:27:28 AM
Well, not much left.

The bodywork and the grille are pretty much identical to the Stoewer R 140/150 of the same year but I could not find a photo of that model with the ventilation doors in the side of the motor hood seen in your photo as opposed to the horizontal openings found on almost all photos I have seen so far.

If I am correct, I do not know which of the two variants it is as they seem to be identical except for a higher compression ratio on the 150 car which yielded 5 more horsepower.

Again, please unlock it if I have missed it yet again.  I don't really enjoy guessing and I am not greedy for points.

Bill
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 08:29:51 AM
Okay, unlocked and open for all Experts.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: vintman on October 11, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
As it seem pillar-less, is probably the Stoewer Greif V8,  2/3 sitziges Sportkabriolett, 1935-37. Same engine but overall a bit smaller

Regards

Vintman
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 02:12:21 PM
As I said before, it is not a Stoewer Greif, but related.  ;)
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: DeAutogids on October 11, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Might it be a Röhr?
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: vintman on October 11, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
 Assuming that Stoewer part is correct and the Grief is incorrect and that it is not one of the 'R's  then I have seem on the web a car that is similar but details different and was defined as 1934 F 2Dr. Cabriolet Glaser. I have also seen similar photos of a car described as 1935 Tourer. The grille seems about 1934. Frustrating !  Regards

Vintman
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 02:59:57 PM
Quote from: DeAutogids on October 11, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Might it be a Röhr?
It is not a Röhr.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: vintman on October 11, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
Assuming that Stoewer part is correct (...)
It is not a Stoewer, but related.
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: DeAutogids on October 11, 2013, 03:20:43 PM
Mathis maybe?
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 03:38:06 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: DeAutogids on October 11, 2013, 03:57:51 PM
Wait... is it a DS, Dewaet & Stoewer?
Title: Re: Wendax 1028
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 05:21:46 PM
Yes, it is the Belgian DS, a licence-built Stoewer from 1934.

One well-earned point for you.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
Post by: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
DeAutogids:

My sincere congratulations on your successful solving of this puzzle.
Certainly a well earned point.

Wendax... do you have any idea how many of these cars were built, especially this cabriolet???
Could not be more than a handfull.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
Post by: Wendax on October 11, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
I don't have a number, but the sources I know say that only very few were made.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
Post by: DeAutogids on October 12, 2013, 05:46:34 AM
It was, according to Kuperan, only build in 1934 and indeed it was not a big succes.