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Title: Solved: Wendax 1047 - Hubert Koechlin's propeller car
Post by: Wendax on October 23, 2013, 12:55:16 AM
It's going to be a windy trip.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on October 30, 2013, 03:15:08 AM
up
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2013, 02:40:09 AM
up again
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Post by: targhediferro on November 06, 2013, 02:47:27 PM
This is not one of the best known Helica cars, so I dug about 1915-1925 prototypes that didn't reach a regular production, but I haven't found a picture of the quiz car; I found some notes about a three wheeled air propelled car, built in Romania by a certain Mr. Vuja. Is there any connection?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
I think there is no Romanian connection.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 06, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
Perhaps I searched in a too late period; locking better at the photo I guess it is from 1906-1914 or so.
Had its builder any connection with aviation or early plane production?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
1915-1925 is too late.
I don't know much about the builder, but at least there is a connection of a family member to aviation.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 06, 2013, 05:41:07 PM
Bleriot?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 02:23:24 AM
Not that known
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
Assuming that Wraith is more known than Bleriot and so obviously wrong, I guess Fokker.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
Getting colder, geographically speaking.
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 07, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Italy?

Caproni?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 01:17:54 PM
Not Italy, so not Caproni.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
French? If yes Farman?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 01:25:30 PM
French, but not Farman
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Givaudin?  I found this man produced some planes in 1908-9 using Vermorel engines...maybe He tried the car adventure too.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
Not Givaudin, but I think of similar obscurity, although I am not into old aircrafts.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Marcel Brindejonc des Moulinais?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2013, 04:21:11 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 05:41:48 PM
Pritchoff-Koecklin?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: grobmotorix on November 07, 2013, 05:55:07 PM
Franchomme?
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 12:58:06 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on November 07, 2013, 05:41:48 PM
Pritchoff-Koecklin?
Locked for you, as one of those two is the family name I am looking for (except for a little typo).
Tell me the full name of the builder, and the point is yours.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 08, 2013, 05:20:29 AM
Well, after a check of the source where I found those names of aviator pioneers, I understand that the name you are searching for is Koechlin (the one I wrote uncorrectly);  The name of the plane builder (I post two pictures of the Pischoff-Koechlin monoplane from 1908) is Paul Koechlin.  I actually don't have idea if he is the same Koechlin who built the quiz car.  Under one of the pictures, there is a description of the engine used for that monoplane, and I guess it could be similar to the one of the quiz car, obviously I have no prove
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 06:35:14 AM
Yes, the builder was a member of the Koechlin family, but not Paul. I have no idea about the engine which was used in the car.

Locked for one try at the builder's name.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: targhediferro on November 08, 2013, 07:17:26 AM
Please Unlock...I dug all the net and I found almost a hundred different Koechlin, born from 1875 and 1888 (assuming the driver pictured in the photo is the man we are searching for he should be 20-30 years old in 1908-9); there is a Charles music compositor, a Maurice whom is said to be due the Tour Eifel's idea, but I found no name connected with cars or plane but Paul.
Had he a tipical french name or a german-coming one?  I ask this because I suppose Koechlin family came from Alsace.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 07:57:01 AM
It is rather a German name, although not unkown in France.

Unlocked and open for all.
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: pnegyesi on November 08, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Alfred Koechlin? It seems he built a car together with his brother, Hubert. And when I searched for Hubert Koechlin I found the puzzle pic:
HUBERT KOECHLIN SUR SA VOITURETTE A HELICE
Title: Re: Wendax 1047
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 08:39:29 AM
Yes, correct. One point for you.
I'll add some more pictures tonight.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1047 - Hubert Koechlin's propeller car
Post by: targhediferro on November 08, 2013, 10:19:38 AM
It's fantastic when you run a 1000 miles race, and your car stops at 10 meters from the arrive line! >:(
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1047 - Hubert Koechlin's propeller car
Post by: pnegyesi on November 08, 2013, 11:15:30 AM
sorry about that. There's a very nice Koechlin family website where it was easy to spot the info about the car. Really sorry
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1047 - Hubert Koechlin's propeller car
Post by: Wendax on November 08, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
The puzzle picture and two more: