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Title: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Wendax on January 27, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
I just know the make, not the model, but the challenge will be the coachbuilder.

For one point, please respond and identify make and coachbuilder.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2012, 02:52:26 AM
up
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on February 10, 2012, 03:21:28 AM
up again
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: pnegyesi on March 19, 2012, 04:58:41 AM
Szawe-based?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on March 19, 2012, 05:05:35 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on March 19, 2012, 06:18:52 AM
Any relation with Grade?
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Post by: Wendax on March 19, 2012, 06:21:43 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
White car, black hole
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 18, 2012, 12:28:03 PM
A Mercedes?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Yes, that was the easy part.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 18, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Presumably German coachwork?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
Ja
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 18, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
I'm also assuming the car is pre-1914 and the coachbuilder is of the lesser known variety.
So let's start with Christian Auer, Stuttgart?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
It is pre-1914 and it is a lesser known coachbuilder, but it isn't Auer.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 18, 2012, 04:32:57 PM
Otto Naegele?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: grobmotorix on June 18, 2012, 04:38:18 PM
Schober?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
Neither one
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: grobmotorix on June 18, 2012, 05:01:29 PM
Balzer coachwork?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2012, 05:03:36 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: grobmotorix on June 18, 2012, 05:21:19 PM
Friederichs?
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Post by: João on June 18, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
Zschau?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 18, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
Phoenix?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2012, 02:12:15 AM
Three times no
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 19, 2012, 04:49:36 AM
Franke?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2012, 06:36:14 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 19, 2012, 06:58:20 AM
Did the company still exist post WW I?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2012, 07:15:53 AM
Yes, the company existed until 1947
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2012, 04:48:32 AM
Ludwig Kathe?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2012, 04:58:36 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2012, 05:56:29 AM
Beer of Zwickau?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2012, 06:24:10 AM
Neither Beer nor from Zwickau
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2012, 11:00:04 AM
Was the coachbuilder situated in the Eastern half of Germany?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2012, 12:06:09 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on March 12, 2013, 04:26:02 AM
No more ideas, anybody?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on March 12, 2013, 01:41:51 PM
I must admit I'd forgotten about this one.
I'll have another search as soon as I can...... ;)
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: grobmotorix on March 28, 2013, 12:43:34 PM
I think it is one-off:

a 1914 Brennabor 5/15 PS Sport-Zweisitzer
with an aftermarket 1923 body, made by Wendler / Reutlingen.

It was built by Wendler´s head designer, Helmut Schwandner, as his own ride.

Quote
Yes, the company existed until 1947

Then one of us must be wrong, because Wendler has produced special bodywork for cars at least until 1963...
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on March 28, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
There are astonishing similarities between those two cars, but also differences. I have the puzzle car as a Mercedes from a small coachbuilder, and I regard my source as trustworthy. But a very interesting connection indeed.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: grobmotorix on March 28, 2013, 01:01:48 PM
Yes, now that I had a closer look, I have to say that mine is smaller.

But maybe the link is the designer, Mr. Schwandner?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on March 28, 2013, 01:30:22 PM
I don't know whether he worked at the coachbuilder in question, before he went to Wendler, sorry. According to the Wendler book he rather didn't.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 09:03:35 AM
The coachbuilder in question was mentioned once before at AutoPuzzles as a wrong guess.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 08, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
Lueg?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 08, 2013, 02:53:52 PM
Zeilinger?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 03:42:07 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 08, 2013, 05:02:30 PM
Zander?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
No

BTW, it was you who guessed this coachbuilder once.  ;D
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 08, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
Quote from: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
No

BTW, it was you who guessed this coachbuilder once.  ;D
A-Ha!
......the only problem is there are so many possibilities but let's try Buhne, not obscure but.....
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
Much more obscure than Buhne
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 08, 2013, 05:15:30 PM
Weinsberg?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 02:05:19 AM
No
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Post by: João on April 09, 2013, 12:27:04 PM
August Nowack?
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Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
No
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Post by: woodinsight on April 09, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
Ehrhardt?
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Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 09, 2013, 04:24:54 PM
Engelhard?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 04:59:26 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 09, 2013, 05:02:25 PM
Kuhn?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 10, 2013, 02:19:28 AM
No.

Perhaps it might help to find the location of the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 10, 2013, 04:48:31 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 10, 2013, 02:19:28 AM
No.

Perhaps it might help to find the location of the coachbuilder.
Yes, you're right of course.
Is it from the northern half of Germany - say north of Dortmund?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 10, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
Yes, from Northern Germany
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: woodinsight on April 10, 2013, 05:55:18 AM
From Hamburg?
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on April 10, 2013, 06:25:03 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on April 10, 2013, 05:55:18 AM
From Hamburg?
Back then: no, nowadays: yes.
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: pnegyesi on June 12, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Body is by Schlecte
Title: Re: Wendax 471
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
I'll accept that little spelling error.  ;)
The bodywork is from Karosserie Schlechte of Altona (now part of Hamburg).

Two well-earned points for this black hole job, waiting to be solved for almost one and a half years.

I have attached an ad and another Schlechte creation:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: grobmotorix on June 13, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
Just because it shows so many design parallels - the Wendler Brennabor:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2013, 04:13:48 PM
Yes, as I said before, it is a very similar design, but I think my source is reliable. I found the picture in an Automobil und Motorrad Chronik article about Schlechte.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Allan L on June 13, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
I'm in linguistic trouble here: is  Karosserie Schlechte not the same as eine schlechte Karosserie?
 8) ;D
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2013, 04:41:33 PM
Certainly not  ;)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: grobmotorix on June 13, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
Quote
Yes, as I said before, it is a very similar design, but I think my source is reliable. I found the picture in an Automobil und Motorrad Chronik article about Schlechte.

Sure, I do not doubt it.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: pnegyesi on June 14, 2013, 03:42:31 AM
There is a very nice new book out there on German coachbuilders. I will introduce it soon. I found this Merc there
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Wendax on June 14, 2013, 03:56:31 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 14, 2013, 03:42:31 AM
There is a very nice new book out there on German coachbuilders. I will introduce it soon. I found this Merc there
Are you talking about Erik Eckermann's new book?
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: grobmotorix on June 14, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
This book is on my X-mas wishlist, too... :D
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Allemano on June 14, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on June 14, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
This book is on my X-mas wishlist, too... :D

It's on top of my wishlist as well but still too much money... €99,-  :-\  However it's not pricey for such a huge volume.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: pnegyesi on June 16, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
Yes, I was talking about this EUR 99 book. I just got a courtesy copy by mistake. But I am not refusing such things :) I will introduce this book soon.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: Allemano on June 16, 2013, 04:28:57 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 16, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
Yes, I was talking about this EUR 99 book. I just got a courtesy copy by mistake.
:faint:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 471 - Mercedes with Schlechte body
Post by: grobmotorix on June 17, 2013, 11:14:27 AM
Lucky guy - I do envy you a bit... ;)