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Title: Solved: Wendax 778 - NSU 10/20 HP
Post by: Wendax on January 11, 2013, 02:24:50 AM
Who needs a windscreen?

For one point, please respond and identify this car, the venue and the driver.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 02:56:19 AM
up
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on January 18, 2013, 08:03:09 AM
Steam-powered car?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
No
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Post by: nicanary on January 18, 2013, 08:09:40 AM
The Balkans?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 08:19:06 AM
Neither the car, the venue nor the driver was called so.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: nicanary on January 18, 2013, 09:01:23 AM
Italian?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 09:10:27 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2013, 01:57:23 PM
Looks like a 1912/'14 Brasier touring.  At this point I have no idea of the venue, or the driver, but, since the people appear to be military, I suspect the photo may be from WWI.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 02:01:02 PM
Sorry, it isn't a Brasier.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2013, 04:40:55 PM
1912/'14 Mors touring?
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Post by: Wendax on January 18, 2013, 04:45:48 PM
Not a Mors
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 19, 2013, 12:15:32 AM
I guess I need to establish if my hunch, that the car is French, is correct.  If so, I'll try a Darracq of about 1912.  If not, it's back to the research files.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2013, 01:32:54 AM
Sorry, neither car nor venue nor driver are French.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 19, 2013, 02:37:27 AM
I suspected that after two wrong guesses.  I'll now assume it's German, until you advise to the contrary, and call this car a Brennabor from about 1912, although the photo may be later.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2013, 06:08:00 AM
It is German, but not a Brennabor, and the photo was taken before 1912.
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Post by: nicanary on January 19, 2013, 07:13:59 AM
Is the venue in Austria?
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Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2013, 12:22:32 PM
No
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Post by: nicanary on January 20, 2013, 04:53:13 PM
I'm intrigued by that flag - it may have tassels on the end. Was this photo taken in Mexico?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 20, 2013, 05:03:10 PM
No Mexican connection
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Post by: vintman on January 21, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
Hi, Lurking in the shadows of the rad sems a badge which would make it a cca 1911 NSU. Perhaps a 10'30 Regards  Vintman
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: nicanary on January 21, 2013, 07:18:39 AM
Is it the NSU 8/24 in the 1913 Moscow-Berlin-Paris trial?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2013, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: vintman on January 21, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
Hi, Lurking in the shadows of the rad sems a badge which would make it a cca 1911 NSU. Perhaps a 10'30 Regards  Vintman
Yes, it is a NSU, not exactly a 10/30, but close. Locked for you to find the missing bits.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2013, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: nicanary on January 21, 2013, 07:18:39 AM
Is it the NSU 8/24 in the 1913 Moscow-Berlin-Paris trial?
Not 8/24, not 1913, not Moscow-Berlin-Paris trial.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: vintman on January 21, 2013, 01:06:16 PM
Hi, Guess it must be the 10'20 NSU then. Physically a big car for anything smaller?? Regards  Vintman
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2013, 01:34:16 PM
Yes, it is a 10/20 HP. How about driver and venue? Still locked for you.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 24, 2013, 04:12:27 AM
Unlocked
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
1909 NSU 10/20 taken at the Prince Henry Trials of 1909 (in Munich?), with Christian Schmidt driving?
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 24, 2013, 04:44:06 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
1909 NSU 10/20 taken at the Prince Henry Trials of 1909 (in Munich?), with Christian Schmidt driving?
Yes, it is a NSU 10/20  at the 1909 Prinz-Heinrich-Fahrt. The driver's last name is Schmidt, but he is not Christian Schmidt who was the founder of NSU.
Locked for you to find the right name.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
Talk about dumb luck.  I used Christian Schmidt, NSU founder's name, as the driver, since I knew no other name to use.  This morning I learn that in 1909, Christian Schmidt had been dead for about twenty years (died at age 39)!  Fortunately, as you stated, the actual drivers name was also Schmidt (related?).  My answer should have read: 1909 NSU 10/20 taken at the Prince Henry Trials of 1909 (in Munich?), with Karl Schmidt driving.
Title: Re: Wendax 778
Post by: Wendax on January 24, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
That's the name I was after, though I must admit (after a look in the right book) that it is not correct. NSU started with three cars at the Prinz-Heinrich-Fahrt in 1909. All three cars were 10/20 HP taken out of the regular production. One was driven by NSU's managing director Carl Schmidt, his copilot was the engineer Fidelis Böhler (who will be famous for his Hanomag 2/10 PS in the future). But the pictured car was driven by Albert Schmidt-Schröder. The Prinz-Heinrich-Fahrt started in Berlin and went over 1836 kilometers during seven days, with stops at Breslau, Tatra, Budapest, Vienna and finish in Munich. All three cars were driven to Berlin and from Munich back to Neckarsulm, thus adding 1200 kilometers to the total. The picture was taken at the beginning of that tour in Neckarsulm.

One more point for you, congratulations.