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Title: Solved: Wendax 857 - IFA W 501
Post by: Wendax on April 01, 2013, 02:40:57 AM
A plain design.

For one point, please respond and identify this bus.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 02:18:30 AM
up
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Post by: targhediferro on April 08, 2013, 04:45:32 PM
North Europe?
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Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
Let's say north of Italy  ;D
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Post by: targhediferro on April 08, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
So it's Italian...Alfa Romeo 1000?
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Post by: Wendax on April 08, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
Sorry, I was mistaken. Not in Northern Italy, but in a country north of Italy.
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Post by: targhediferro on April 09, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Ok. Is it Swiss? If yes a Saurer?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 02:09:30 AM
Not Swiss
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Post by: targhediferro on April 09, 2013, 02:16:49 AM
Steyr?
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Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2013, 02:18:32 AM
Not Austrian either
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 02:45:13 AM
up again
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Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2013, 03:08:16 AM
German?
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 03:29:31 AM
Yes
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Post by: pguillem on April 16, 2013, 09:13:10 AM
Krauss-Maffei ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 09:14:33 AM
No
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Post by: pguillem on April 16, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Pekol ?
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Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
Krupp Sudwerke?
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 12:41:20 PM
Neither one
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Magirus-Deutz?
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 12:53:04 PM
No
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Post by: pguillem on April 16, 2013, 01:13:53 PM
Maybe ZF ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 01:52:11 PM
No, ZF didn't build buses, but only transmissions (Getriebe) and steerings (Lenkung) for them.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 16, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
Orion ?
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Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Henschel?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2013, 04:11:06 PM
Not Orion and not Henschel
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Post by: pguillem on April 16, 2013, 05:36:35 PM
Another Klatte bus ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2013, 02:12:43 AM
No
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Post by: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
Oh boy !  ???
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Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
Quote from: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
Oh boy !  ???
>:D  ;D
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
From an obscure bus-maker ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
Not as obscure as some of the before mentioned. In fact, the maker is not an obscure company at all.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
Hmm, that light above the bumper... Could it be a Mercedes-Benz O 6600 from 1950, which evolved in the O 6600H ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
Not a Mercedes-Benz, sorry.
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Post by: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 04:28:05 PM
Is the maker still making buses?
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Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2013, 04:44:29 PM
No, the maker doesn't exist anymore, but the factory changed name and ownership several times, and is still active in the truck coachbuilding business.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: targhediferro on April 17, 2013, 05:31:16 PM
Kassbohrer Setra?
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Post by: pguillem on April 17, 2013, 07:14:32 PM
Drögmöller ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 18, 2013, 02:04:51 AM
No to both
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Post by: woodinsight on April 18, 2013, 03:32:45 AM
Bussing?
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Post by: Wendax on April 18, 2013, 03:36:42 AM
No
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Post by: pguillem on April 18, 2013, 05:18:06 PM
Ackermann ?
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Post by: woodinsight on April 18, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
Borgward?
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Post by: Wendax on April 19, 2013, 01:29:32 AM
No to both
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Post by: pguillem on April 23, 2013, 05:46:24 PM
Faun ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 24, 2013, 02:03:47 AM
No
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Post by: grobmotorix on April 24, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Krupp?
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Post by: Wendax on April 24, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
Still not Krupp
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Post by: 4popoid on April 25, 2013, 12:09:40 AM
Gottlob Auwärter/Neoplan/Neoman/MAN?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 25, 2013, 02:13:05 AM
Ackermann
Auwärter
Borgward
Büssing
Drögmöller
Faun
Henschel
Kässbohrer
Klatte
Krauss-Maffei
Krupp
Magirus-Deutz
MAN
Mercedes-Benz
Neoplan
Orion
Pekol
Setra
Südwerke
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 25, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
FAKA ?

1958 übernahm FAKA die Produktionsstätten der Firma Hermann Harmening in Bückeburg. Dort setzte man die Fertigung des von Harmening entwickelten HKB-Clubbusses unter eigenem Namen fort. 1960 wurde die Busherstellung jedoch eingestellt und man konzentrierte sich nur noch auf die Produktion von Wechselpritschen und Containern. 1972 wurde FAKA von der Firma Kögel übernommen und als Werk Bückeburg weitergeführt.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 25, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
Sorry, not FAKA either.

A hint: no guesses so far were even close to the solution.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 25, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Wendax on April 25, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
Sorry, not FAKA either.

A hint: no guesses so far were even close to the solution.

But is it a bus?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2013, 02:14:45 AM
Yes, it is a bus built in Germany.
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Post by: pguillem on April 26, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Was it made for some special use, i.e not only transporting passengers ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2013, 09:52:24 AM
I see that my hint was slightly misunderstood. It is an ordinary bus built by a German company. It is just that the companies guessed so far all have something in common that doesn't hold true for the one we are looking for.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 26, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
From East Germany ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2013, 12:21:35 PM
 :idea: Yes
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Post by: pguillem on April 26, 2013, 01:46:09 PM
Hmmm... Nothing in the "Büsse in der DDR" page.  Horch ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
No
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Post by: pguillem on April 26, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Lowa ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Now you are very close. It was built in the Lowa factory, but unlike its predecessor it wasn't called Lowa anymore. Locked for you to find the right name.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 26, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
Could it be the Gothaer Fahrzeugtechnik ?

Die Gothaer Waggonfabrik wurde zerschlagen. Ein Firmenteil wurde an die Schmitz-Gruppe verkauft und stellt Straßenanhänger her, ein anderer Firmenteil bildet die Gothaer Fahrzeugtechnik als Hersteller von Gittermasten und Auslegerverlängerungen. Schienenfahrzeugbau findet in Gotha nicht mehr statt, ebenso in Babelsberg. Der VEB Lokomotivbau Karl Marx Babelsberg wurde 1992 abgewickelt. Auf seinem Gelände befindet sich heute ein Industriepark. Am Standort Wildau wurde 1994 die Wildauer Kurbelwellen GmbH gegründet, die 1997 vom Unternehmen Georgsmarienhütte übernommen wurde. Auf den verbliebenen Teilflächen dieses Standortes wurde ein neuer Campus der Technische Fachhochschule Wildau errichtet.

The Gothaer Waggonfabrik was smashed. A firm part was sold to the Schmitz group and manufactures road trailers, another firm part forms the Gothaer vehicle technology than manufacturers of latticed masts and arm extensions. Building of rail-mounted vehicles does not take place in Gotha, likewise in Babelsberg. The VEB Lokomotivbau Karl Marx Babelsberg was completed 1992. On its area is today an industrial estate. At the location Wildau was created 1994 the Wildauer crankshafts GmbH, which was taken over 1997 by the enterprise Georgsmarienhütte. On the remaining patches of this location a new Campus of the technical professional school Wildau was established.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 01:25:55 AM
No, think simpler. At the time this bus appeared, Lowa changed its name (involuntarily).
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 27, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 01:25:55 AM
No, think simpler. At the time this bus appeared, Lowa changed its name (involuntarily).

Oh.  Is that the answer ?

It was founded in 1945 and initially named "VVB des Lokomotiv- und Waggonbaus" (Association of People's Own Companies of the Locomotive and Carriage Building)—abbreviated: LOWA. In 1954 it was renamed into "VVB Schienenfahrzeugbau" (Association of People's Own Companies Rail Vehicle Building).

But  why involuntarily ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 11:12:47 AM
The brand of the bus is a common one for East German vehicles. Locked for one more try.
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Post by: pguillem on April 27, 2013, 11:20:37 AM
IFA ?
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Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 11:21:38 AM
Yes, which model?

I said involuntarily, because the Socialist party headquarter decided that Lowa had to join the IFA combinate.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 27, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
I had it on my hard disk !

IFA H 6 B from 1954, "der Urvater aller H 6 B`s".  It's a prototyp.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
Sorry to disappoint you a little. The puzzle bus is the predecessor of the H6B and almost identical to the first H6B, but has a different name. Still locked.
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: pguillem on April 27, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
W 501 from 1952 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 857
Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2013, 02:28:52 PM
Hooray! It is the IFA W 501, successor of the Lowa W 500. One well-earned point for you.

I like the photo you posted, because it shows the rarely seen IFA L1.