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Title: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 21, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
For my puzzle number 200 I'd like to offer you something more than a simple car to identify.  I hardly dare to challenge with Wendax and his enigmas, but I hope you'll enjoy this game.
You have 20 pictures of 20 different cars; your task is to form 10 couples, putting together the two cars that have the very thing in common I thought about.   It is of course possible that two or more cars among the following 20 have some connection I didn't think about, but you have to discover the correct couples and the correct hint.
I must tell you that it is necessary to identify correctly the cars, but the hint may not depend from that particular model you have identified; for istance, if one car of the couple is a Fiat 500 Gamine Vignale, the hint may be simply Fiat or 500, two stroke engine, Vignale, Turin and everything else.
Experts are allowed to give no more than an answer for each post, waiting at least for another puzzler to post an answer before replying again; no more than three points for each Expert.
Rookies are allowed to give all the answers they want, without a maximum of points.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 21, 2013, 12:03:03 PM
and more
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: D-type on September 23, 2013, 08:26:42 AM
200-Q, the Fiat Multipla and 200-V the 1965 Land Rover Long Wheelbase Estate
both vehicle's are the manufacturer's attempt to provide transport for the larger family.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 23, 2013, 08:39:06 AM
It could be, but they don't are a couple in this quiz.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
Expert don't like this kind of challenge so much...so Pros can enter the battlefield...Rules are the same I told for Experts:  Pros and Experts are allowed to give no more than an answer for each post, waiting at least for another puzzler to post an answer before replying again; no more than three points for each Expert and Professionals.
Rookies are allowed to give all the answers they want, without a maximum of points.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Carnut on September 25, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
How about E and O - both cars (Ford Classic and Troll) have a reverse-sloping rear window?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 25, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
200H (Delahaye 235 ) and 200T ( Taxi Renault Juva 4 ) , 2 cars by Faget & Varnet ?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 11:07:49 AM
How about E and O - both cars (Ford Classic and Troll) have a reverse-sloping rear window?
A nice idea, but E and O don't form a pair.
200H (Delahaye 235 ) and 200T ( Taxi Renault Juva 4 ) , 2 cars by Faget & Varnet ?
That's the first right guess, and the first point.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 25, 2013, 11:23:25 AM
B: Tornax Rex and M: Malzoni Gt, both DKW-based.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 01:17:25 PM
B: Tornax Rex and M: Malzoni Gt, both DKW-based.
Perfect. Another couple, another point.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Ehhxekt on September 25, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
I’d pair 200-A with 200-U. They share their model name, referring to the streamlined body of the vehicle: 1936 Chrysler Imperial Airflow, 1939 Dodge Airflow tanker truck.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 25, 2013, 02:11:39 PM
1 answer by 24 hours ?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
I’d pair 200-A with 200-U. They share their model name, referring to the streamlined body of the vehicle: 1936 Chrysler Imperial Airflow, 1939 Dodge Airflow tanker truck.
Another correct answer...it will not last long among Pros!
1 answer by 24 hours ?
No, you mustn't wait; the rule is just no more than an answer each post and a new answer after another puzzler's post...so you're allowed to try again.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 25, 2013, 03:33:52 PM
200 C: BMW 700 Colani and G: Hoffmann Hanno 501, both had a two-cylinder engine.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
200 C: BMW 700 Colani and G: Hoffmann Hanno 501, both had a two-cylinder engine.
C and G are a correct pair, but the connection you found is not the one I though...locked for just another guess.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 25, 2013, 03:57:46 PM
Both have air-cooled engines.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 04:03:28 PM
Not that one...unlocked.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 25, 2013, 04:39:54 PM
200D : Chausson with Chenard & Walcker engine
200F :Fernand Bachmann , Chenard & Walcker driver at 1923 Le Mans ?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 25, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
200D : Chausson with Chenard & Walcker engine
200F :Fernand Bachmann , Chenard & Walcker driver at 1923 Le Mans ?
Oh oui! This was not the easest one!
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Craig Gillingham on September 25, 2013, 09:22:40 PM
200-N : Is a 1934 Triumph Gloria, that used a Coventy Climax engine.
200-R : Is that a Lagonda Rapier? which also used a Coventry Climax.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 26, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
200-N : Is a 1934 Triumph Gloria, that used a Coventy Climax engine.
200-R : Is that a Lagonda Rapier? which also used a Coventry Climax.
Well, N and R are a pair, but R is not a Lagonda, and the connection is not about the Coventry Climax Engine.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Craig Gillingham on September 26, 2013, 01:57:42 AM
<answer deleted> Sorry, just re-read the instructions.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: ropat53 on September 26, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
200-N : Triumph Gloria, Donald Healey was 3rd in the 1934 Monte Carlo Rally in a Triumph Gloria.
200-R : 4 1/2 litre Invicta and Donald Healey wow the 1931 Monte Carlo Rally in an Invicta.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 26, 2013, 11:10:54 AM
200-N : Triumph Gloria, Donald Healey was 3rd in the 1934 Monte Carlo Rally in a Triumph Gloria.
200-R : 4 1/2 litre Invicta and Donald Healey wow the 1931 Monte Carlo Rally in an Invicta.
Correct, the hint I was looking for is Donald Healey, who drove both these car in the Montecarlo Rally. Perhaps you should thank Craig. ;)
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 26, 2013, 04:45:08 PM
I: 1936 Humber Snipe and V: Land Rover 109 Series 2 both used 7.50-16 tires.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 26, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
I: 1936 Humber Snipe and V: Land Rover 109 Series 2 both used 7.50-16 tires.
That's a very nice observation, but Humber and Land Rover don't form a pair in this game, sorry.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: ropat53 on September 26, 2013, 09:08:34 PM
Sorry I hate doing this twice, first it was Craig and now Wendax, but they aren't locked, so I'll try:

200c - BMW 700 Colani
200g - Hoffmann Hanno 501

Luigi Colani and Thomas Hoffmann are partners in Co-Ho AG Colani & Hoffmann a Swiss based design company.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 27, 2013, 12:25:55 AM
Another very nice and interesting connection, but I didn't even know about this design company, so the answer is not what I'm waiting for.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 27, 2013, 01:37:28 AM
200L : Healey Duncan
200P  :Isadora Duncan dead in a Bugatti T35
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 27, 2013, 01:42:16 AM
200c - BMW 700 Colani
200g - Hoffmann Hanno 501 (like BMW 501 ) ?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Allan L on September 27, 2013, 03:26:35 AM
200L : Healey Duncan
200P  :Isadora Duncan dead in a Bugatti T35
except she was killed in an Amilcar and there doesn't seem to be an Amilcar on offer.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 27, 2013, 03:33:42 AM
200L : Healey Duncan
200P  :Isadora Duncan dead in a Bugatti T35
200L : Healey Duncan
200P  :Isadora Duncan dead in a Bugatti T35
except she was killed in an Amilcar and there doesn't seem to be an Amilcar on offer.
Well, I know that probably the legend about Isadora Duncan's Death in a Bugatti is not completely affordable, but I though about it when I chose the Bugatti and the Healey Duncan pictures, so SACO got the correct pair.
200c - BMW 700 Colani
200g - Hoffmann Hanno 501 (like BMW 501 ) ?
remember the rule: each Expert is allowed to give an answer each post and must wait for another puzzler gives at least an answer before replaing again.    Anyway it is not right.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: SACO on September 27, 2013, 03:46:55 AM
OK !  ;D
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 27, 2013, 03:49:23 AM
Solved and not yet solved:

A - Chrysler Airflow 1935  and U - Dodge Airflow Truck 1939  (The same model name)
B-  Tornax Rex and  M - Puma Malzoni GT  (Dkw engine)
C-  Bmw 700 Colani and  G - Hoffmann 501  ( connection with Isetta )
D- Fernand Bachmann and  F - CHS Chausson  (connection with Chenard Walker)
E - Ford Consul Classic (109E) and V - Land Rover 109 (number 109)
F - see D
G - see C
H- Delahaye 235 Faget-Varnet and T - Renault Juvaquatre Escoffier Taxi  (same coachbuilder, Faget-Varnet)
I - Humber Snipe 1936 and Fiat 600 multipla 1956 (Butterfly doors)
L - Healey Duncan Drome and P - Bugatti Type 35  (Connection with the name Duncan)
M- see B
N- Triumph Gloria and R- Invicta 4,5 swb (Both driven by Donald Healey at Montecarlo Rally)
O - Troll and S- Wisconsin Special by Sigh Haugdahl (Norway connection)
P- see L
Q- see I
R- see N
S- see O
T- see H
U- see A
V- see V
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 27, 2013, 11:38:23 AM
I'll have another try at the pair 200 C: BMW 700 Colani and G: Hoffmann Hanno 501, although I think that it is too far off. There were variations of the Isetta under the BMW and the Hoffmann brand, although it was a different Hoffmann company.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 27, 2013, 02:54:49 PM
Well done Wendax! Isetta is actually the connection I had in my mind between Bmw and Hoffmann.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Craig Gillingham on September 28, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
200-O : Is a Troll car made in Norway. (Thanks to Carnut)
200-S : Is the 1922 Wisconsin Special, made by Sig Haugdahl, who was Norwegian. The connection being Norway.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 29, 2013, 04:06:02 AM
200-O : Is a Troll car made in Norway. (Thanks to Carnut)
200-S : Is the 1922 Wisconsin Special, made by Sig Haugdahl, who was Norwegian. The connection being Norway.
That's absolutely right!
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: ropat53 on September 29, 2013, 11:49:02 AM
200 i - Humber Snipe, made an all-terrain vehicle (Montgomery's staff car)

200 v - Land Rover all-terrain vehicle.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: nicanary on September 29, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
The Humber Snipe (I) and Fiat Multipla (Q) both had occasional seats which folded down for extra capacity ???
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Wendax on September 29, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
E: Ford Consul Classic was also known as 109E, V: Land Rover 109. The connection is the "109".
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 29, 2013, 12:48:51 PM
200 i - Humber Snipe, made an all-terrain vehicle (Montgomery's staff car)
200 v - Land Rover all-terrain vehicle.
They don't form a pair.
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The Humber Snipe (I) and Fiat Multipla (Q) both had occasional seats which folded down for extra capacity ???
Correct pair, but wrong hint.
E: Ford Consul Classic was also known as 109E, V: Land Rover 109. The connection is the "109".
Bingo...another point for you.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 29, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
Well, the only lasting thing to discover is the connection between Humber Snipe 1936 and Fiat 600 multipla (the picture shows an American market model, but it doesn't mean). Double point if discovered by a Rookies.
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: Hiawatha on September 29, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
Suicide door opening in front and normal opening in the back?
Title: Re: TGF-200
Post by: targhediferro on September 29, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
Suicide door opening in front and normal opening in the back?
So fair, so good...and Hiawatha completed this quiz.