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Title: 1919 Fiat, a monstrous special called "Melos Grulli"
Post by: grobmotorix on September 17, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
Who knows this car?
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 03, 2014, 09:46:45 AM
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 03, 2014, 09:47:51 AM
Puzzle pic changed - we had this one before
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Post by: Majeko on October 07, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
Looking very comfy!

German?
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 07, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
Not from Germany.
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Post by: Majeko on October 13, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
Austria?
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 13, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
Not from Austria.
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Post by: Majeko on October 13, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
French?
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 14, 2014, 01:00:49 AM
Nope.
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 12:41:19 PM
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Post by: 4popoid on November 09, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Italian marque?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 03:29:56 PM
Yes!
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Post by: 4popoid on November 09, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Aquila Italiana from about 1913?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
Not that ecotic.
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 09, 2014, 04:09:12 PM
Itala 35 HP?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Not an Itala.
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Post by: 4popoid on November 09, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Lancia from about 1912?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 06:36:27 PM
Aquila Italiana
Itala
Lancia
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Post by: jotage21 on November 09, 2014, 06:54:06 PM
F.I.A.T. ?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 06:56:10 PM
Yes - simple as that, well - so far.

LOCKED for you!
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 01:03:04 PM
Unlocked.

Open for all again.
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Post by: ropat53 on November 23, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
Any Scandinavian connection?
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Post by: 4popoid on November 23, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
Fiat 50 hp (6cyl/7.4 liter) from about 1908?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
The chassis is most possibly pre WW-1.

I do not know any technical details.

But I have a name for this special.

So I can´t tell much more.

What I want to hear is this name... ;)

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Post by: 4popoid on November 23, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
I understand that you don't know any technical details grob, nevertheless I need to ask a question to try to cut down on hours of useless research.  The question concerns that row of large heavy looking boxes sitting on what would normally be a running board.  The look of the chassis, especially the front wings, seems to indicate a pre 1910 manufacture, yet the lights are so small they must be electric, which would be nearly unheard of on a pre 1910 car.  This leads me to think that this special is much newer (perhaps even post WWI) than the chassis, and those heavy boxes might be batteries.  Early electric cars were setting all sorts of speed records, so might this vehicle be the conversion of an old Fiat chassis to electric, or perhaps hybrid, power?   
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 05:10:24 PM
Well, I can´t promise, that you will be successful with your search in the internet. I have found it there myself, but this is a very very hard nut.

Those boxes are all gasoline cans, as this was a car for voyages.

The other photo I have - which will not really help also... ::)

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Post by: D-type on November 24, 2014, 06:12:37 PM
I know the later ones were Mercedes based, but is this one of the first of "Count" Zborowski's Chitty Bag Bangs
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 24, 2014, 07:07:31 PM
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on November 27, 2014, 02:14:25 AM
Was this "special" prepared for a particular event, and hence named "event special", such that if the name of the event were known, the name of the car would be known?  For example, if this vehicle was prepared for the Peking to Paris Race, the name might be "Peking to Paris Special".
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 27, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
I do not think so.
It just seems to be a special for a quite extrovert person.
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 06, 2014, 10:23:22 AM
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 07, 2014, 01:51:05 AM
any connection to Poland?
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 07, 2014, 04:48:59 AM
I don´t think so.
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Post by: D-type on December 11, 2014, 09:31:58 AM
Was the large amount of fuel for desert travel?  Hence Sahara Special?
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 11, 2014, 11:55:11 AM
I has been photographed in Italy in 1919 - maybe the filling stations were on strike... :D
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2014, 03:56:56 PM
It was called Melos-Grulli.
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 11, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
KILLER!

You´ve most probably found the only source available in the whole internet.

Or you were able to read the line beneath the head sculpture in photo #2...  ;)

Maybe one of our Italian guys may know the meaning of the name "Melos Grulli" or if there was a person with this (nick) name??
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
 8)
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Post by: thorax on December 15, 2014, 06:22:47 AM
the word "melos" is latin and the meaning is : poem, melody or melodious song.
the word "grulli" is an ancient tuscany word which means goofy or silly
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 17, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Thank you.
Who might have been this silly singer??
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2014, 12:38:04 PM
Are you sure about that name? 'Grulli' is the plural of 'grullo' that is 'silly' but together they are a joke in Italian...not in Tuscany but more in the area of Rome.
There are several (bad) jokes like that and they consist in put togheter a couple of words that sounds like a name but read togheter reveal the joke...a famous one is Erminio Ottone....I can't translate it but our Italian friends will have a laugh.
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 18, 2014, 03:53:10 AM
Yes - I am sure about the name. There was some text with the photo. I am sure the creator knew exactly what he did while choosing that name...
Title: Re: 1919 Fiat, a monstrous special called "Melos Grulli"
Post by: grobmotorix on December 18, 2014, 04:22:36 AM
After some additional research I think this could very probably be a converted Fiat 30/45 HP chassis from around 1911. What makes me stumble is this strange hidden chain drive case in front of the rear wheels...