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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2014 => Topic started by: grobmotorix on November 16, 2014, 04:27:46 AM

Title: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by Fritz Kleemann (founder of Horex)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 16, 2014, 04:27:46 AM
Who knows this car?

One point for the car.

One additional point for the driver, as he is a quite interesting person.

Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 20, 2014, 11:20:32 AM
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Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 05:10:15 AM
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Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: Wendax on November 23, 2014, 05:12:25 AM
German?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: oko94 on November 23, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
Szawe ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 05:30:15 AM
Not a Szawe.

But it is a german car.
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: oko94 on November 23, 2014, 06:36:33 AM
Mercedes ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 06:42:16 AM
Benz
Szawe
Mercedes
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: nicanary on November 23, 2014, 06:43:35 AM
Stoewer ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: Wendax on November 23, 2014, 07:02:55 AM
From a well-known manufacturer?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 07:04:04 AM
Non existant today, but still quite well known, I am sure.

Nothing exotic in any case.
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: Wendax on November 23, 2014, 07:16:44 AM
Simson?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 08:15:54 AM
Benz
Mercedes
Simson
Stoewer
Szawe


It was a quite big company...
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: nicanary on November 23, 2014, 08:17:36 AM
Opel???  :-\
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 08:44:45 AM
Benz
Mercedes
Opel
Simson
Stoewer
Szawe


As I said:

   - not existant today

   - a big company, but not that as big as Opel

However you were very close... ;)
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: 4popoid on November 23, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
AGA?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: Bill Murray on November 23, 2014, 09:07:08 AM
Adler 28/95 from around 1922?
Bill
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: mekubb on November 23, 2014, 09:16:16 AM
NSU ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.11.16 (01)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 09:21:14 AM
Bill Murray hit it!

Adler is correct.
To be honest, I have never heard about about a 28/95PS Adler before.
(There was a 28/95PS Mercedes.)

I have not information about the chassis, but I think I am sure I know which chassis it really was.

Or prove me the opposite, of course :)


This topic is LOCKED for you now.
Title: Re: LOCKED for Bill Murray / grob 2014.11.16 (01) / Adler ???, driven by ???
Post by: Bill Murray on November 23, 2014, 11:06:56 AM
Not much information out there on pre-1930 Adlers, unless you like typewriters.  Even my standard reference books were of no help.

You are correct about the 28/95 model designation, I misread a translation that discussed a particular car up for identification.  That is a Mercedes designation.

So, the best I can do for now is to suggest it is a 9/24 model, coach builder and driver unknown to me.

Edit:  If that is not the first part of the answer, please unlock it.

Bill
Title: Re: LOCKED for Bill Murray / grob 2014.11.16 (01) / Adler ???, driven by ???
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 11:10:28 AM
O.K.

I give you two more tries to find out the correct model.

It definitly is not a 28/95PS, and also not a 9/24pS.

Try something in between... ;)

Don´t worry about the driver.

He will be another topic and an additional point
Title: Re: LOCKED for Bill Murray / grob 2014.11.16 (01) / Adler ???, driven by ???
Post by: Bill Murray on November 23, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
OK X 2.

I have 2 1/2 choices left, one of which seems to be the same model with a slight difference in engines.

Best bet out of those is an 18/60 as it is larger.

Bill
Title: Re: LOCKED for Bill Murray / grob 2014.11.16 (01) / Adler ???, driven by ???
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
Well done.

I found another photo of this type of car, and now I am sure it is an 18/60 Adler!


I will not put that puzzle to the solved section, because there is one more point waiting for the one who can identify the driver, who is known in motoring history.

Here´s the undisguised puzzle photo:
Title: Re: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by ??? (one more point is waiting...)
Post by: Bill Murray on November 23, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
This photo??

Bill
Title: Re: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by ??? (one more point is waiting...)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
No, that one (scanned from a book...:) )

It only features those aluminium wheel covers, that proect the wire wheels from visible dust and save you much detail cleaning work:
Title: Re: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by ??? (one more point is waiting...)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
The puzzle pic car with the same driver, just one year later at a comparable event in the same region...

As I told before, the driver was an interesting man who started a new motoring business just that year (at the age of 22)  ;)
Title: Re: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by ??? (one more point is waiting...)
Post by: Wendax on November 23, 2014, 12:28:33 PM
Must be Fritz Kleemann, founder of the Horex motorcycle company.
Title: Re: Adler 18/60PS Sportwagen, driven by ??? (one more point is waiting...)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 23, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Very good!

Your point!

The puzzle photo was made at the 1922 Autowoche Bad Kissingen,
the second action photo at the 1923 Bad Homburger Autoturnier.