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Title: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: Joćo on August 03, 2011, 10:38:24 PM
For one point, please identify this car, the coachbuilder and the year :
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: SACO on August 04, 2011, 01:54:14 AM
by Bertone ?
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: barrett on August 04, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
I was under the impression that this was was still 'unknown'??
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on August 04, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Yes,by Bertone.

I was under the impression that this was was still 'unknown'??

I think,I know what it's. ::)
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: pguillem on August 04, 2011, 10:42:55 AM
Is it the Healey 2.4 litre Cabriolet from 1948 ?
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on August 04, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
Is it the Healey 2.4 litre Cabriolet from 1948 ?

Yes! I believe so.A different one,later in 1948 Bertone made some 100 bodies on the Healey chassis.
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: SACO on August 04, 2011, 12:31:33 PM
This Healey is different ,and less long  ???
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Facel on August 04, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
Stanquellini, made by Bertone (1947-1954)
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Facel on August 04, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
And the name of the car was 1100 Berlinetta
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: pguillem on August 04, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
This car was shown in the movie "Cinque poveri in automobile" where it was the main lottery prize.  However, the discussion about it at the IMCDb site, where numerous photos can be found, doesn't make clear what it is, even if it points the long wheelbase.  The upper logo looks like a "N", but this doesn't help me very much.
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: SACO on August 04, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
Some same Bertone's front vue :
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on August 04, 2011, 03:20:13 PM
Stanguellini..it's another option,but a Cabriolet???

The second badge looks like this one :
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Facel on August 04, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
I was wrong, it is a Bertone Healey 1948
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on August 09, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
I would like to hear the Pros.
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Oguerrerob on August 28, 2011, 01:07:22 AM
Seems to be 1949 Simca Bertone 1200 Cabriolet Tassi & Rivoli
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: pguillem on August 28, 2011, 01:39:51 PM
At the IMCDb forum, DynaMike insisted that "Wheelbase is much too long to be a Simca" and fqsavoia, who proposed the Simca 1200 answer, just replied : "I'm quite sure that's a Bertone coachwork, and a Simca nose but, you're right, i didn't notice the huge wheelbase...."  No more comments were given on this forum. BTW I'm not sure that Tassi & Rivoli was a carrozzeria : an article of the review Comunismo (n. 40 - giugno 1996) describes it as an autorimessa.
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on August 28, 2011, 01:48:41 PM
You're right pguillem.

Als15 where are you?  :)
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: DynaMike on August 28, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
Nice to see my imcdb-comment on autopuzzles :)
I thought the wheelbase might match with a Lancia Aurelia, but no idea how to find confirmation about that...
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: SACO on September 08, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
A logo on the steering wheel and an other on the seat ?
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: 75america on September 17, 2011, 01:09:39 PM
Nardi-Danese Marco with Carrozzeria Bertone body?
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on September 18, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
It could be!

Everyone agrees that it's a Nardi-Danese?

Nice find 75america!
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: pguillem on September 18, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
Strange.  The Nardi-Danese Marco was the subject of Puzzle #1786 and looks completely different.  All I could find on the Net refers to that car, dating from 1947 or 1949 (the answer to the puzzle).
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: 75america on September 19, 2011, 02:22:12 PM
Strange.  The Nardi-Danese Marco was the subject of Puzzle #1786 and looks completely different.  All I could find on the Net refers to that car, dating from 1947 or 1949 (the answer to the puzzle).

I'm not 100% sure that the car I posted and the Autopuzzle car are one and the same, but the only differences between the 2 cars that I notice are the paint color and the hood ornament.  2 things that are rather easy to change.  So my guess is that they are 1 and the same car. 
If my information is correct, the wheelbase of the car is 25(6?)30 mm. 
About the different bodies between this car and Puzzle #1786 gives my source (not the internet) the following explanation:

…
Al Circuito del Monrenero, disputato a fine agosto a Livorno, esordģ, con al volante Enrico Nardi, anche la 8 cilindri 1500. Questa vettura, anche se reclamizzata solo sol secondo numero di "Interauto" del 1948, venne trasformata in un lussuoso cabriolet a quattro posti con carrozzeria Bertone per Marco Fabio Crespi, detto Rudy, e dal nome del proprietario derivņ la denominazione di Nardi-Danese Marco.
…

Lousy Google translate translation (but the essential part is understandable):

...
At Circuit Monrenero, held in late August in Livorno, began with Enrico Nardi steering wheel, even the 8-cylinder 1500. This car, even if only advertised only the second issue of "whole" of 1948, was transformed into a luxurious four-seater cabriolet with Bertone for Marco Fabio Crespi, Rudy said, and the owner's name was derived the name of Marco Nardi-Danese .
...
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: pguillem on September 19, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
…
Al Circuito del Monrenero, disputato a fine agosto a Livorno, esordģ, con al volante Enrico Nardi, anche la 8 cilindri 1500. Questa vettura, anche se reclamizzata solo sol secondo numero di "Interauto" del 1948, venne trasformata in un lussuoso cabriolet a quattro posti con carrozzeria Bertone per Marco Fabio Crespi, detto Rudy, e dal nome del proprietario derivņ la denominazione di Nardi-Danese Marco.
…

That's it !
Title: Re: JPG #163
Post by: Joćo on October 02, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
I think it's solved!

Thanks 75america.
Title: Re: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: pguillem on October 16, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
Additional infos.
Title: Re: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: Joćo on October 16, 2011, 05:15:51 PM
 :hail:

Thank you so much pguillem!!
Title: Re: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: fgsavoia on January 21, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
Excuse me guys, but how a racecar could have a so big wheelbase to be rebodied with that coach?
Is this car the "Marco" or the car of the other thread?
And, quite sure, the car were two, a white and a black one.
Title: Re: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: fgsavoia on February 08, 2012, 06:37:38 PM
ND Marco is still existing and that's not that car:

(http://www.ff1.it/ff1/sezioni/storiche/ND/piccole/Nardi%20Dainese%20Marco.JPG)
Title: Re: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone
Post by: 75america on December 01, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
On another forum, there is suggested that the black car that appears in post 19 and 25 is indeed the Nardi-Danese "Marco" by Bertone but that the white car of post 1 (the mystery car) is one of a similar looking small series of cars built by Bertone on Riley chassis.
Title: Solved - NEH 3814: Bertone Nardi-Danese Marco - 1948
Post by: Carnut on December 03, 2014, 07:39:11 AM
What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Carnut on December 17, 2014, 05:02:22 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Majeko on December 17, 2014, 06:37:04 AM
Stanguellini?
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Carnut on December 17, 2014, 07:41:55 AM
Stanguellini?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Majeko on December 17, 2014, 03:28:11 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Carnut on December 17, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
Italian?

Yes.
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Majeko on December 18, 2014, 04:27:12 AM
Nardi-Danese Marco Bertone 1948
Title: Re: NEH 3814
Post by: Carnut on December 18, 2014, 09:17:00 AM
Nardi-Danese Marco Bertone 1948

Correct!
1 point for you.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3814: Bertone Nardi-Danese Marco - 1948
Post by: Wendax on December 18, 2014, 09:20:30 AM
Should be the same one: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17647.0
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3814: Bertone Nardi-Danese Marco - 1948
Post by: Carnut on December 18, 2014, 09:26:24 AM
Should be the same one: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17647.0

Thanks.  The Search facility really is letting me down; maybe it was the inverted commas on this occasion..
I've just posted a puzzle in the Rookies section that I'm convinced we've had before but no amount of search for any of the words associated with it produce any result; I guarantee some Pro will spot it and tell me though!