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Title: Solved - MJW #1192 - JND Buckler-Ford 1952
Post by: woodinsight on April 06, 2014, 03:18:27 PM
Identify the car - what it was known as, the builder, the engine it was fitted with -  for a point.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 01:04:15 AM
Up to the Experts now
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
British car?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
British car?
Yes, it's from the UK
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 11:03:43 AM
Allard base?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 11:03:43 AM
Allard base?
Not based on an Allard.....
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
Lotus MK3?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
Lotus MK3?
Not a Lotus but it is nearer the correct size rather than the Allard
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 16, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
HRG?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: D-type on April 16, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
HRG?
Not an HRG - not so refined......
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 03:06:51 PM
so not a homemade racer?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 16, 2014, 03:28:06 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 03:06:51 PM
so not a homemade racer?
It is a car that was home-built but based on a recognised make.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 16, 2014, 03:35:13 PM
based on Austin Seven?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 16, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
MG based?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 17, 2014, 12:20:46 AM
Neither Austin or MG based.
The marque is quite well known but not one of the mainstream manufacturers
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 17, 2014, 10:13:02 AM
Alvis?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 22, 2014, 03:15:57 AM
Not an Alvis - much less refined!
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: frederick59 on April 22, 2014, 10:23:21 AM
Is it mainly a racing car manufacturer?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 22, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
Yes, the majority of the cars they produced were used in competition.

This particular car used one of the base models of this manufacturer but it was built/modified as a one-off.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 22, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
An Elva?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 23, 2014, 01:04:08 AM
Not Elva but you're moving in the right direction
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: gilescooperuk on April 23, 2014, 02:40:32 AM
ERA ?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 23, 2014, 03:09:37 AM
Not ERA.....
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 23, 2014, 04:05:01 AM
Long shot:  Cooper-MG?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 23, 2014, 08:13:16 AM
No, not a Cooper-MG or any type of Cooper......
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 23, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
I'm struggling to think of another low volume sports/racing car maker.  Was the manufacturer better known for trials cars than cars for circuit racing?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on April 24, 2014, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: D-type on April 23, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
I'm struggling to think of another low volume sports/racing car maker.  Was the manufacturer better known for trials cars than cars for circuit racing?
More for cars used for circuit racing although they also produced cars for road use, trialling, etc.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on April 24, 2014, 11:25:32 AM
Frazer Nash?   
No, you said the car isn't very refined.

A Buckler?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on May 01, 2014, 05:22:00 PM
Yes it's a Buckler!
I'm going to give you a point for that and offer another point for the builder/owner of this car.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: D-type on May 01, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
It could be anything - you bought a Buckler frame, fitted the engine of your choice, and bought a body from them or someone else or made your own.  Then you named your creation whatever you wanted. 

The Canary Special?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on May 07, 2014, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: D-type on May 01, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
It could be anything - you bought a Buckler frame, fitted the engine of your choice, and bought a body from them or someone else or made your own.  Then you named your creation whatever you wanted. 

The Canary Special?
It's not the Canary Special.....

What you say is true of course, one of numerous specials based on various chassis.

This one is named xxx-Buckler.

Anyway, thanks for your input Duncan and I'm now moving this one up to the Pros

Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: nicanary on May 07, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
Is it the Salmson-Buckler ?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on May 07, 2014, 07:50:01 AM
Not the Salmson-Buckler.

The three xxx's are the the initials of the builder/owner.....
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: nicanary on May 07, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
The MGW had an all-enveloping body , so that leaves the BBS. (You could have left the reg plate in the photo !)
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: nicanary on May 07, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
The MGW had an all-enveloping body , so that leaves the BBS. (You could have left the reg plate in the photo !)
Yes, sorry to be a spoilsport!

However, it's not the BBS (or MGW).
I'll check the register to see if it's listed - my photo comes from a well-known mag of the time.
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: Allan L on May 14, 2014, 07:01:30 AM
There is also the JND Buckler, built in 1952 by J.N. Dobbs and fitted with an 1172cc Ford E93A engine
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: nicanary on May 14, 2014, 07:32:08 AM
NHC-Buckler ?
Title: Re: MJW #1192
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2014, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: Allan L on May 14, 2014, 07:01:30 AM
There is also the JND Buckler, built in 1952 by J.N. Dobbs and fitted with an 1172cc Ford E93A engine
That's it Allan!
Well found and another point for you.
Here's the original photo and caption -