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Title: Solved - NEH 2978: Zombi 1500SR Sports Roadster 1959 (Said to be!)
Post by: Carnut on September 12, 2013, 07:37:59 AM
What's this car said to be (which is not necessarily the same thing as what it actually is..) - for 1 point?:

ANYONE FOUND GIVING ANSWERS OBTAINED BY USING GOOGLE SEARCH BY IMAGE MAY BE BANNED FOR AN INDETERMINATE PERIOD!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on September 19, 2013, 04:55:07 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Iluvatar on September 19, 2013, 11:17:27 AM
Maserati A6GCS or something similar?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on September 21, 2013, 01:38:35 PM
Quote from: Iluvatar on September 19, 2013, 11:17:27 AM
Maserati A6GCS or something similar?

Probably, yes.
But that doesn't answer the puzzle!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: nicanary on October 03, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Sorry to be a nuisance, but I'm a bit confused by the puzzle. The puzzle image appears to be an illustration from a period magazine, and it looks awfully like an "interim" Maserati A6GCS, the model between the original cycle-wing car, and the later all-enveloping bodied ones.

Your question suggests not - are you saying this is a different car altogether, or that someone has built a fraudulent copy?  Sorry to be a bit naughty and fish for clues !
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 06:56:41 AM
Quote from: nicanary on October 03, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Sorry to be a nuisance, but I'm a bit confused by the puzzle. The puzzle image appears to be an illustration from a period magazine, and it looks awfully like an "interim" Maserati A6GCS, the model between the original cycle-wing car, and the later all-enveloping bodied ones.

Your question suggests not - are you saying this is a different car altogether, or that someone has built a fraudulent copy?  Sorry to be a bit naughty and fish for clues !

You're not a nuisance!  It's just a bit of fun.  The picture clearly shows a Maserati, but there is a website which claims it is something else entirely (along with other well-known cars).

So you need to find that website and tell me what they say this car is!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: nicanary on October 03, 2013, 07:03:23 AM
Quote from: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 06:56:41 AM
Quote from: nicanary on October 03, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Sorry to be a nuisance, but I'm a bit confused by the puzzle. The puzzle image appears to be an illustration from a period magazine, and it looks awfully like an "interim" Maserati A6GCS, the model between the original cycle-wing car, and the later all-enveloping bodied ones.

Your question suggests not - are you saying this is a different car altogether, or that someone has built a fraudulent copy?  Sorry to be a bit naughty and fish for clues !

You're not a nuisance!  It's just a bit of fun.  The picture clearly shows a Maserati, but there is a website which claims it is something else entirely (along with other well-known cars).

So you need to find that website and tell me what they say this car is!

Many thanks. Message understood.

Is this an illustration from a comic strip or other book of entertainment? (This is a serious question, not sarcasm!)
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 07:50:20 AM
No, the picture comes from a website and is nothing to do with books or comics.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: targhediferro on October 03, 2013, 08:25:04 AM
I'm quite confused too...I understand that the picture actually shows a Maserati Interim A6 GCS, not a car that looks like a Maserati!  But we are requested to find the site where the car is described as something else...perhaps with a wrong caption...?  I suppose the only way is to visit every site on the net, searching for this picture.  Can we have a little clue?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: nicanary on October 03, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on October 03, 2013, 08:25:04 AM
I'm quite confused too...I understand that the picture actually shows a Maserati Interim A6 GCS, not a car that looks like a Maserati!  But we are requested to find the site where the car is described as something else...perhaps with a wrong caption...?  I suppose the only way is to visit every site on the net, searching for this picture.  Can we have a little clue?

Nice to see I'm not the only one. This could take a looonnnggg time.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 09:10:21 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on October 03, 2013, 08:25:04 AM
I'm quite confused too...I understand that the picture actually shows a Maserati Interim A6 GCS, not a car that looks like a Maserati!  But we are requested to find the site where the car is described as something else...perhaps with a wrong caption...?  I suppose the only way is to visit every site on the net, searching for this picture.  Can we have a little clue?

No clues yet.
It's hasn't been wrongly captioned; it's a site which gives names to various different cars including this Maserati, claiming they were made by them!  It's not fraudulent at all, just someone having some fun.

So I need the name this car has been given.  There are those on this site who seem to be able to make a direct hit on any website which gives the right answer with a bare minimum of information, hence no clues.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: targhediferro on October 03, 2013, 01:19:51 PM
So this quiz would fit for "Site-puzzles"...a good challenge anyway: we have to search for a site about someone who pretends he builds cars like the one pictured, otherwise called, but it is not true!!! It sounds difficult. :o
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on October 03, 2013, 01:19:51 PM
So this quiz would fit for "Site-puzzles"...a good challenge anyway: we have to search for a site about someone who pretends he builds cars like the one pictured, otherwise called, but it is not true!!! It sounds difficult. :o

There are those on here who have the knack of putting the right questions into Google to come up with the right answer.. If only I had that knack!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 03, 2013, 01:46:42 PM
I remember visiting this site but I forgot its name.  Is it Swiss ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 03, 2013, 01:46:42 PM
I remember visiting this site but I forgot its name.  Is it Swiss ?

No, it's not Swiss.
I just visited the site again and it's all written very seriously with names, addresses etc, but I find it very hard to believe there's a word of truth in it!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 03, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
Am I wrong ?  Was another car from yhis site puzzled here ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: targhediferro on October 04, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
I dug a lot about fakes, replicas and such disgusting things without result, but now I think it was a wrong path: I understand that the site we are looking for doesn't admit to built fakes, but pretend they are their own models with their names...using pictures of famous cars...is it right?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 04, 2013, 04:21:21 AM
Quote from: pguillem on October 03, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
Am I wrong ?  Was another car from yhis site puzzled here ?

You must be.  The name has never appeared here on AP before.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 04, 2013, 04:23:28 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on October 04, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
I dug a lot about fakes, replicas and such disgusting things without result, but now I think it was a wrong path: I understand that the site we are looking for doesn't admit to built fakes, but pretend they are their own models with their names...using pictures of famous cars...is it right?

That's right, yes.  I keep re-reading the site with some amazement, as they go into some detail about which cars they were based on, which engines would be used, even including prices and who bought certain cars!  Yet the whole thing can't be true; there is no mention of the name anywhere else on the entire 'net or in any of my books so it can't have been a real company which produced replicas otherwise it would be known..
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: D-type on October 04, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
Was this intended as a trap to catch those who use Google Search by Image?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Bill Murray on October 04, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
Interesting question, D-Type........................

Back in the day, the 1950's and early 1960's, my automotive interests were much different than they are today.

I was an avid reader and sometimes collector of just about every US automotive magazine of the era and if I could not afford to buy the magazine, I haunted my local grocery stores/book stores that stocked Road and Track, Motor Trend etc. etc.

This kind of vehicle is not, and has not, been something of interest to me since the late 1960's but I distinctly remember the photo, probably of the original car.  As I do not use SBI, I will never solve this puzzle, I am not even trying.

Not to be a "Grouch", but sometimes even "Carnut" goes a bit far in testing our knowledge.  Not often, but sometimes.

Hopefully, I am not offending anyone.

Bill
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 04, 2013, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: D-type on October 04, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
Was this intended as a trap to catch those who use Google Search by Image?

You credit me with being more devious than I am..

I'm always on the lookout for new puzzles and am always a bit disappointed when they are easily solved.  But there are some extremely knowledgeable guys on this site and I know that almost whatever I post there's an expert in those on here and it'll get solved quite quickly.

But occasionally I stumble across a site and I think.. "What the heck is that?" and "Wow, what a difficult puzzle that would make!".  Sometimes I'm wrong and it's solved without a by-your-leave in minutes, but sometimes it's a real head-scratcher - something I've certainly never heard of and which is only on one source in the entire world..

Those who don't want to take part in this one needn't Bill - there's absolutely no obligation.
But as I keep saying, there are puzzlers on this site who know exactly what words to key in to get exactly the result they want.  There is one guy from Venezuela who can get the most obscure Chinese repmobile which is only mentioned on one Chinese site instantly by just keying in the right thing...

I arrived at the site I got this from just by keying in certain words; whoever solves this will have done exactly the same thing.  There was no trickery and certainly nothing devious involved.  I'd like to think all my puzzles are a test, but a test of knowledge (or, I suppose, a test of how to use Google or Yahoo or whatever search engine is used), but certainly not a trap.  Although I abhor the use of Search by Image which is nothing other than cheating, I take few measures to defeat it as I credit all the regulars on this site with the integrity to play the game properly and if a newcomer comes along then it becomes fairly clear quite quickly whether he is knowledgeable, a tryer or a cheat.  I have to say at the moment I don't know of any current members who fit into the latter category.

Good hunting!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: nicanary on October 05, 2013, 05:21:45 AM
Hear, hear!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: targhediferro on October 05, 2013, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: D-type on October 04, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
Was this intended as a trap to catch those who use Google Search by Image?
If it was, the trap has been switched off! I didn't think it was a trap, but I was waiting to see who would have guessed it to ask him how the hell he was able to...and I'm sure I would have some doubt even if, every day I'm astonished by the skilfulness of the most part of Experts and Professional, that's the best warranty they don't need SBI to give right answers.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 05, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
And it's not unsolveable.  After all, I arrived at the site quite by chance!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 05, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
From Liechtenstein ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 05, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 05, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
From Liechtenstein ?

No.
Don't know of any cars from there, but I suppose there must be some!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Wendax on October 05, 2013, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Carnut on October 05, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 05, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
From Liechtenstein ?

No.
Don't know of any cars from there, but I suppose there must be some!
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6203
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4161
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4274
;)
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 05, 2013, 04:24:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on October 05, 2013, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Carnut on October 05, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 05, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
From Liechtenstein ?

No.
Don't know of any cars from there, but I suppose there must be some!
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6203
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4161
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4274
;)
From a Grand Duchy ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 05, 2013, 07:13:00 PM
Of course, yes - Jehle!  I should have remembered.

I wonder how many Grand Duchies there are?
Anycase, this is definitely not from any of them!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: ropat53 on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
Regardless of from where the site is, please lets get our political geography straight, Liechtenstein is a Principality and the only Grand Duchy that exists today is Luxembourg.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
Regardless of from where the site is, please lets get our political geography straight, Liechtenstein is a Principality and the only Grand Duchy that exists today is Luxembourg.

Exact.  But I had a vague souvenir about a site showing cars made by a fictive Grand Duchy,  The same happens with coins issued by fictive states.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: ropat53 on October 06, 2013, 12:46:06 AM
Maybe it was the same place where Peter Sellers, reigned, ruled and led the army? ;D
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 06, 2013, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 12:29:16 AM
I had a vague souvenir about a site showing cars made by a fictive Grand Duchy,  The same happens with coins issued by fictive states.

I think you're referring to this one, where you listed all the models made by Monteluci in the fictional Grand Duchy of von Luxemburg!:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19788.msg201343#msg201343
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: Carnut on October 06, 2013, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 12:29:16 AM
I had a vague souvenir about a site showing cars made by a fictive Grand Duchy,  The same happens with coins issued by fictive states.

I think you're referring to this one, where you listed all the models made by Monteluci in the fictional Grand Duchy of von Luxemburg!:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19788.msg201343#msg201343

Yes, Monteluci.  But the puzzle car is completely different.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 06, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 10:08:52 AM
Yes, Monteluci.  But the puzzle car is completely different.

You're right; it's not a Monteluci!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
Was it built by an other fictional nationstate ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 06, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 06, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
Was it built by an other fictional nationstate ?

No, the address on the website could be a perfectly feasible genuine place.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: targhediferro on October 07, 2013, 02:18:26 AM
From Great Britain?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 07, 2013, 05:00:03 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on October 07, 2013, 02:18:26 AM
From Great Britain?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: D-type on October 26, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
A long long shot: was this internet joke (if that's the correct term) called a Pignatelli?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: mekubb on October 27, 2013, 06:01:20 AM
Was this car ever built for real or just a proposal of some kind ?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Allan L on October 27, 2013, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: Carnut on October 03, 2013, 09:10:21 AM
it's a site which gives names to various different cars including this Maserati, claiming they were made by them!  It's not fraudulent at all, just someone having some fun.
That's not the famous Goldth kg site that claimed the Eyston diesel record-breaker as their own is it?
If it is, I cannot find it now.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: D-type on October 28, 2013, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: mekubb on October 27, 2013, 06:01:20 AM
Was this car ever built for real or just a proposal of some kind ?
Yes it was.  It is a 1952 Maserati A6GCS.  But the answer to this puzzle is a website that claims it is something else.  And using "Search by image" to find the site is still prohibited.
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: grobmotorix on October 29, 2013, 02:34:39 PM
When I compare wheels and the steering wheel with other A6GCS photos, I think, some proportions may be wrong.

Is this by chance a kind of early Maserati (works?) replica?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on October 30, 2013, 08:25:08 AM
It's none of the sites mentioned.
The puzzle picture is, I'm sure, a Maserati, but it might perhaps have been photoshopped a bit.
In any case, whether or not the picture is a Maserati that's not the answer to the puzzle!
For interest below is another car they say they made/make and which bears their own name!:
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: grobmotorix on November 04, 2013, 11:29:28 AM
 :o
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on November 04, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: grobmotorix on November 04, 2013, 11:29:28 AM
:o

Quite!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on June 02, 2014, 06:07:27 PM
Time to go to the Black Hole...
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: D-type on June 25, 2014, 03:29:38 PM
Any Dellepiane connection?  Or am I on the wrong track?
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on June 30, 2014, 06:51:37 AM
Quote from: D-type on June 25, 2014, 03:29:38 PM
Any Dellepiane connection?  Or am I on the wrong track?

Nothing to do with them I'm afraid!
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: nicanary on November 17, 2014, 11:34:09 AM
It's a 1959 Zombi 1500SR Sports Roadster.

Believe it or not, I was looking for images of another puzzle car, and typed in Frazer Nash GRP body, and this came up halfway down the page! The whole site is a complete joke, and personally I can't see what fun the instigators get out of it, but maybe it means something in Vancouver, for that is where this fictional company is based.

Another one put to bed. The OP knows me now - I don't cheat. 'Twas pure serendipity. (I still haven't solved the other puzzle!)
Title: Re: NEH 2978
Post by: Carnut on November 19, 2014, 10:54:54 AM
Brilliant!
You get 2 points for that since it's an old Black Hole puzzle.
Some people just have too much time on their hands to produce sites like that..
Well done.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 2978: Zombi 1500SR Sports Roadster 1959 (Said to be!)
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2014, 05:36:13 AM
The same car but not a Zombi!: