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Title: Solved NIC#189 - 1935 Singer team crash at the Tourist Trophy
Post by: nicanary on April 29, 2014, 07:17:33 AM
What are these cars, and what has happened here, at what event?
Title: Re: NIC #189
Post by: Allan L on April 30, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
Nice one Nicanary!
Title: Re: NIC #189
Post by: nicanary on May 01, 2014, 07:43:47 AM
Quote from: Allan L on April 30, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
Nice one Nicanary!

I have a personal interest in this one, but can't say any more....... ;)
Title: Re: NIC #189
Post by: nicanary on May 16, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC #189
Post by: serra on May 16, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
It is a crash beteen two Singer nine race cars in Ards Tourist Trophy 1935
Title: Re: NIC #189
Post by: nicanary on May 16, 2014, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: serra on May 16, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
It is a crash beteen two Singer nine race cars in Ards Tourist Trophy 1935

LOCKED for you. I'm sorry to ask for more, but strictly speaking it wasn't a crash between two cars. What had happened to the cars in the photo?
Title: Re: NIC #189 LOCKED
Post by: serra on May 17, 2014, 03:13:45 AM
I am not absolutely sure because my English but as much as I can understand you are right and it is necesary clarification.

There was not a crash and we are seeing in the photo are two Singer race cars that has an accident in the same place due to a steering problem for a design weakness. Four Singer race cars started this race and 3 had the same problem, the other was forced to retire. This problem brought bad publicity to Singer, which pulled out of offically entering teams in events under its name.

I post some images: in the first one can be seen the damaged steering dragging underneath the car as it climbs the bank.

Title: Re: NIC #189 LOCKED
Post by: nicanary on May 17, 2014, 05:06:55 AM
Excellent. Well done serra! And thank you for the extra photos. You have said everything that was necessary and earn a point. Singer had done very well at Le Mans and had great hopes of beating the MGs and Rileys in front of a home crowd, but it was a complete disaster - thank fully nobody was seriously hurt.I think from memory that Singer had redesigned the steering asembly but were not allowed by the RAC to fit it to the team cars because it was not fitted to production cars. They had a first-rate driver line-up - #38 was Norman Black, usually an MG team driver, and #37 was SCH (Sammy) Davis, a racing journalist who was very influential on the UK racing scene.

My personal interest in the puzzle is that I live in that area, and drive the old course nearly every day - it hasn't changed much, it's just a country road.

Please don't worry about your English - everybody on  Autopuzzles is aware of this problem. The reason it is conducted in English is simply because it was started by 2 American members (I think), but it's great to have other countries involved - I would like to see more from Asia because they could contribute some cars probably unknown in the West. Most internet sites have a Google translation available, and if you're not sure what a question means, don't be afraid to ask.



Title: Re: Solved NIC#189 - 1935 Singer team crash at the Tourist Trophy
Post by: Allan L on May 17, 2014, 07:22:42 AM
As an additional bit of information, the chap with the sketch pad seen running away from the accident but then running back to help is Bryan de Grineau, the artist who worked for The Motor. I've never seen a picture worked up from that 1935 TT accident but for those not familiar with his work, here's his one of Count Lurani's Maserati 4CM practice crash at Crystal Palace in 1938
(http://images.arcadja.com/bryan_de_grineau_john_a_-london_grand_prix_crystal_palace~OM2a8300~10001_20130914_20931_22.jpg)
Title: Re: NIC #189 LOCKED
Post by: serra on May 18, 2014, 05:02:51 AM
Quote from: nicanary on May 17, 2014, 05:06:55 AM
Excellent. Well done serra! And thank you for the extra photos. You have said everything that was necessary and earn a point. Singer had done very well at Le Mans and had great hopes of beating the MGs and Rileys in front of a home crowd, but it was a complete disaster - thank fully nobody was seriously hurt.I think from memory that Singer had redesigned the steering asembly but were not allowed by the RAC to fit it to the team cars because it was not fitted to production cars. They had a first-rate driver line-up - #38 was Norman Black, usually an MG team driver, and #37 was SCH (Sammy) Davis, a racing journalist who was very influential on the UK racing scene.

My personal interest in the puzzle is that I live in that area, and drive the old course nearly every day - it hasn't changed much, it's just a country road.

Thanks  :)
Please don't worry about your English - everybody on  Autopuzzles is aware of this problem. The reason it is conducted in English is simply because it was started by 2 American members (I think), but it's great to have other countries involved - I would like to see more from Asia because they could contribute some cars probably unknown in the West. Most internet sites have a Google translation available, and if you're not sure what a question means, don't be afraid to ask.