For 1 point : year, name of the project, coachbuilder and designer
Experts ?
It looks like a saab project,maybe 1960s?
Nice try, but nothing to do with Saab or the sixties
an early sketch of amc pacer?
Nothing to do with AMC Pacer
Is it European though? If so france?
Early sketch of Renault 16?
It's european but not french, therefore not a Renault 16
Is it a design sketch for a british car?
German ?
Neither british nor german
Is this a sketch design for autobianchi?
Not for Autobianchi
does ghia have a hand in this design?
No relation with Ghia
Is it a sketch from a design competition entered by school children or novices?
was there any well known coachbuilder,s behind the sketch?
Quote from: richard cuyler on June 18, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Is it a sketch from a design competition entered by school children or novices?
No design competition, no children involved, but it was indeed the first car designed by the designer you have to find.
Quote from: kwgibbs on June 18, 2014, 09:25:40 PM
was there any well known coachbuilder,s behind the sketch?
There was a well known coachbuilder involved.
was it fioravanti?
Not Fioravanti
Pininfarina perhaps?
Not Pininfarina
lets give zagato a try?
Not Zagato !
vignale?
Not Vignale. But keep on searching, you're circling around the answer.
I was hoping my perseverance didn,t get to ya,how about giannini automobile?
No relation with Giannini. You previous attempts were closer to the answer...
I over looked Bertone?
Not Bertone !
italdesign giugiaro?
Still no
felice Mario boano?
Not Boano. Still circling around...
I wonder if Boneschi could be the one?
I'll say it again :
Quote from: oko94 on June 19, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
There was a well known coachbuilder involved.
Boneschi is not obscure but I wouldn't say that it's well known compared to the one we are looking for.
Im not super familiar with Italian coachbuilders,but the only other one can think of right now is fissure?
Sorry but it's not Fissore
I.D.E.A.
pietro frua?
Scaglietti?
Not Frua, I.DE.A or Scaglietti.
Castagna?
Not Castagna
And don't forget that finding the coachbuilder is only one part of the equation...
Keep on searching !
Colli?
Better known than Colli !
This is an obscure project related to a well-known Italian coachbuilder. Keep on searching and you will find the coachbuilder, otherwise I'll have to move it to the pros.
Pros ?
Michelotti?
No relation with Michelotti
Pietro Frua?
Frua has already been mentioned.
Time to sum it up : this puzzle has no relation with :
Ghia
Fioravanti
Pininfarina
Zagato
Vignale
Giannini
Bertone
Ital Design/Giugiaro
Boano
Boneschi
Fissore
IDEA
Frua
Scaglietti
Castagna
Colli
Michelotti
There's a well-known Italian coachbuilder that hasn't been mentioned yet.
Tjaarda?
Touring?
Tjaarda : no
Touring : YES !
That was the easy part ;)
Now look for the designer, the project name and the year.
1966 for the year?
Not 1966. And you're quite far from the answer.
Louis de Fabribeckers ?
Louis de Fabribeckers wasn't born when the puzzle's car was designed
Aldo Sessano?
Carlo Anderloni from about 1952?
Aldo Sessano was not involved.
Carlo Felice Bianchi Anderloni was the head of Touring when the puzzle's car was designed, but he was not its designer.
1952 is correct !
Revelli?
Not Mario Revelli di Beaumont
Dumb guess,.but Giugiaro?
Not Giugiaro. He was only 14 in 1952, and this car hasn't been designed by a youngster.
Might this be a concept drawing for the Hudson X-161 (a four door variant of the Hudson Italia coupe) designed by Frank Spring?
No, no relation with that car or that designer.
Remember the hint I gave earlier : "it was indeed the first car designed by the designer you have to find". It will take you further than you think.
It's a design for an Alfa Romeo by Gio Ponti for Touring, 1952-54
Excellent ! Just give me the name of the project and you'll get a point.
LOCKED for barrett
No mention of a project name in the book which covers this car, but it seems it was known as the 'Diamante'
It's also known as "Linea Diamante". Anyway, you deserve your point !
Gio Ponti was a famous Italian architect and designer. His best known works are the Pirelli tower in Milano and the Superleggera chair. The Linea Diamante was the only car he designed but it was never built as it was considered too advanced. He had adapted to car design his architectural principle of "finished shape" and his obsession for diamond patterns.
I learnt something new today! :thumbsup:
Was this car ever built in some form? Or was it just a drawing?
Some two-door and four-door scale models have been made but no full-size model or prototype. If I have time I'll post some pictures tonight, but you can easily find them on the web meanwhile.
It's a fascinating project but strangely it almost never gets mentioned in books or articles about Touring or car design in general. You have to be an architecture enthusiast (which I am) to learn about it...until now at least ;)
Fascinating puzzle.
His ideas were certainly way ahead of their time in 1952.
The Linea Diamante was also proposed with 2 doors!:
Glad you enjoyed it !
It was funny to see that even experienced puzzlers thought it was a mid-sixties project.
I think the car industry should ask more often people from other fields to bring fresh ideas. Nowadays car design is all about brand identity and surface excitement and SUVs, but real new concepts are lacking.
Quote from: oko94 on July 10, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Glad you enjoyed it !
It was funny to see that even experienced puzzlers thought it was a mid-sixties project.
I think the car industry should ask more often people from other fields to bring fresh ideas. Nowadays car design is all about brand identity and surface excitement and SUVs, but real new concepts are lacking.
I had dismissed it as being 1960s because of the 'over-riders' on the bumpers; a design like that one would never have had such things in the sixties.
So I looked for it as 1950s but came up with nothing as I'd never heard of Gio Ponti!
4-door and 2-door scale models
It's all over the internet, but worth including here. A full-size mock-up of this car has finally been built!